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Quickie question do you pay by minute for interent access or is there a package like uk surf unlimited ?

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PAYG thru dial up on cytanetforall (no 'contract')

PAYG on dial up with a CYTA 'contract

Brodaband from whoever you want - thru CYTA's phone line

Broadband via wireless from Digby's Holitec

Is that enuff choice?

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Expect to pay around CY£ 21 per month for I Choice/Net Runner 512 if you want more speed the 1000 will cost you more from CYTA on top of this you will have to pay for your telephone line approx CY£7 (calls extra)
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This post interests me too.
Can you get broadband with "unlimited " download deals in Cyprus or are you restricted by monthly limits?
I would like to be able to continue to get my fix of certain American TV series when we finally get out there.

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...I would like to be able to continue to get my fix of certain American TV series when we finally get out there....
There is no advertised limit with my ISP (Netway via iChoice) but surely a fair usage clause somewhere. Have been here 18+ months and downloaded 100's Gb's of avi/zip/rar etc, I've never watched the speed (no point as you can't get "faster than the package i`m on!) but the file completes in the end :)


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Hi Brian,

As far as I am aware, no ISP in Cyprus has any download limits. On our wireless system, we do draw the line at torrents/P2P filesharing. The problem is the cost of bandwidth here, almost £700 per Megabit per month, so if someones downloads 24/7 using 1Mb they are costing the ISP £700, and only getting £30 in revenue. I am sure most ISP's will slow this type of traffic anyway, but just will not tell you.

1-500MB per day should not be a problem, 1GB+ may cause the ISP to start asking questions, and probably reduce your service level.

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1-500MB per day should not be a problem, 1GB+ may cause the ISP to start asking questions, and probably reduce your service level.

Digby


Oh dear we could have a problem.....
I download 1Gig in a matter if minutes here at the moment!!!!
Each 1 hour episode of a show in DivX format is about 350k-370k and I tend to download between 5 and 8 hours of tv per week.

BidDutch are you on an ADSL connection and could you advise what speed you get and approx cost please.

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Hi Brian,

I am sure most ISP's will slow this type of traffic anyway, but just will not tell you.

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As I'm sure you know there are ways of disguising the type of down traffic anyway. :wink:

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Hi Brian,

I think netway is the best ISP for ADSL (they now do 4 & 8Mbps), but in Kathikas you may have a problem as the ADSL only reaches the School at present, plus you may only get a 256/64 service becasue of the distance from Stroumpi where the ADSL comes from. If you have a landline number, PM it to me and I can find out if I-choice is available. As a licensed ISP I can now provide ADSL over i-choice as well as wireless. It is possible to offer a higher service level for this volume of data, but the cost would be more over the wireless system as our costs are based on an average of 200MB /day.

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Cheers for the info and here in uk we pay one standard rate and can surf unlimited.Are these deals available in cyprus ?

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on a similar vain but slightly different what are ADSL costs these days? I still use cyta dial up mainly because I'm not home often enough to justify the costs of adsl I think the last time I checked a couple of years ago it was around 60 quid a month ? and it hadn't progressed as far as Mesoyi. Does anyone know if this has changed ?

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This is now getting both interesting and confusing.

A few questions..

Has deregulation taken place in Cyprus where not only Cyta can provide a telephone connection?
As in the UK and BT.

For example My telephone line is looked after and I am billed for it by The Post Office.

However my ISP is Virgin and I pay my monthly internet charge to them. (Changing to Eclipse next week Virgin have lost the plot)

Probably best to ask the questions one at a time I guess.

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Hi Frank,

No I do not know of any dial-up unlimited plans, you pay per min.

Ian,

a 256 ADSL service is around £18 per month in old money, 1Mb about £30, and yes you can get it in Mesogi. Our wireless is payto use, ie €11 per week or €42.75 per month (1Mb/256 - soon 1.5/256). No disconnect/reconnect charges.

Brian,

The telecoms market is deregulated now, Primetel and others offer telephone connections - but only cover the main towns. I cannot get a primetel connection in Polis or Peyia. You can get your telephone connection from CYTA, and use any ISP (Avacom, Netway, Spidernet etc etc)

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Thanks for that Digby.

I guess the first thing to do is get a telephone line put in!!!
Not as easy as you might think. :shock:
Just tried to order online from Cyta.
Not possible.
The new house I have in Kathikas is on an unnamed road.
Has no number.
I have no postcode for it.
Th Cyta website will not allow me to use my UK address and telephone number as a contact.
They love to make things simple don't they?
? :? :oops: :? :oops:

Guess I'll have to wait till I come out and drop into the Cyta Offices.

Thanks for all the info.

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Hi Brian,

Might not be very easy to get a telephone line put in - if your builder has not done the correct paperwork, certificate of final completion etc you may have to wait years. You, like may others, may only have one option - wireless. However, the polis side of Kathikas is out of reach at present (near Petradaki etc).

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Digby,

We we move over in May it is vital that I get the internet as I intend to continue working for my present company via a VPN link as I do now in Wales. We haven't found a rental property yet (whilst we wait for our house to be built) but are quite interested in one in Ineia, as that is where our plot is. Can I assume that I should only be looking at houses in an area where I can get it? If so, how will I know which areas that will be?

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Hi Tina,

Ineia/Kathikas at present is running on battery power, as we are still waiting for the mains to be connected. I have a map on the website (http://www.holitec.eu) showing coverage, but there are not many areas that I do not cover. You need to be able to see a transmitter, max range is around 8km away as we are restricted by Government rules. I would advise doing some checks before commiting to rent, do not assume that you can get a telephone/broadband connection as you can in the UK. I can check availability of both CYTA and our wireless quite quickly.

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Thanks Digby, I will probably check with you before then. The house in Ineia is not too far from Verity's, and our plot is just below another house which itself is below Verity's. I believe you provide the internet to both of them. The plot of course we can't change, but we can choose a rental property by location.

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Hi Tina,

I know exactly where you are. The house below Verity's is Barry's and there are no problems there (except flat batteries! - hopefully soon to be sorted). You cannot get ADSL there anyway and Verity gave up getting a phone line.

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I guess the first thing to do is get a telephone line put in!!!


With the Holitec system, you don't need a phone line.

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I know exactly where you are. The house below Verity's is Barry's and there are no problems there (except flat batteries! - hopefully soon to be sorted). You cannot get ADSL there anyway and Verity gave up getting a phone line.


Thanks Digby. I had already been told that we wouldn't get a phone line so I won't waste our time trying. Wireless will be fine, managing with nothing would be a problem :cry:

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I don't think we should have too much trouble getting a phone line as our neighbors have a telephone and broadband so I can't really see why it should be a problem for us.
I guess time will tell.

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o how much is it per minute on pay as you go internet :shock: we are just after figures so we can get an idea.

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Here it is

http://www.cytanet.com.cy/onthemove/cytanetforall/

and for the other charges,

http://www.cytanet.com.cy/Services/conn ... net_Access

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We could get a phone line, but Cyta are one of the most unhelpful companies I have come across. All it would take is a little bit of joined up working between them and an electrician.

I am waiting to get shot down for making that statement, but in my experience they can't be bothered to help.

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Slightly o/t, but why the obsession with getting a land line?

PAYG and contract phones are soo cheap why pay the €100 connection and then €16 per month line rental?

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It is good to have a back up. I tend to remember land line numbers more easily too.

I was stuck at Akrotiri working late one day last year. As I was leaving at 6 p.m. I took my mobile out of my bag only to find the battery was flat. I was frantic as Phil expected me to be at home, and I had no way of getting in touch with him to tell him I was okay, just late, as I couldn't remember his mobile number. I also didn't know the mobile number of anyone in Cyprus.

There was also a night when I was coming back from Pafos late. It was dark and the roads are quite lonely. I tried to ring him to tell him I was on my way so that he would know approximately when to expect me, but he had his phone on silent and he had fallen asleep. At least a house phone rings out and would wake him.

It might seem like little things. But it gives me a better sense of security. Plus I don't think that mobiles are particularly cheap. It all depends on the time you ring and whether you are ringing other mobiles.

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Starchild wrote:
It might seem like little things. But it gives me a better sense of security.


Point taken, but for 'holidaymakers like me, it's a waste of money when a so-easy 'tenner' will last about three months

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True JB. It just makes a difference when you live here.

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Can you have landline for receiving calls only and not sending as it would also be cheaper.

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""Can you have landline for receiving calls only and not sending""

I think you can 'block outgoing calls' - maybe you could look on the cyta web site, perhaps it says there????

""as it would also be cheaper""

Is this an assumption, or a fact???

As far as I know the rental is the same whatever.

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Hi JB

I would have thought making outgoing calls would cost per call so not an assumption.In Uk as you are aware you pay for line rental and then calls so on the basis if you only accept calls on landline then rental costs is all you should incur.

Something i shall have to look into.

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I would have thought making outgoing calls would cost per call so not an assumption.In Uk as you are aware you pay for line rental and then calls so on the basis if you only accept calls on landline then rental costs is all you should incur.
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Ahah!

I see what you mean, asd I'm fairly certain you are correct in your assumptions.

Since we had holitec broadband installed we have had the landline disconnected.

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Cheers JB it is all food for thought when we decide.

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I have been doing quite a lot of web researching on this over the W-end and as far as I can see there are some phone and internet packages available that include "free" calls within the monthly charge. (similar to deals available in the UK)
If this is the case then this may be the way to go if the package is available in your location. Probably worth more investigation.

As an aside has anyone any experience if Spidernet please?

This might be a useful link.http://www.cyprusbroadband.net/

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As an aside has anyone any experience if Spidernet please?
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We used to have Spidernet in our office, and eventually ditched them to get Cyta back in - they were a bit cheaper, but we found their reliability and speed to both be very poor.


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