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Author:  Starchild [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Bottled Water left in The Sun
I received this in an email. Does anyone know whether there is any truth in it? If there is, it is relevant to all who live in Cyprus.

Bottled water in your car.....very dangerous, women!!!!
This is how Sheryl Crow got breast cancer. She was on the Ellen show and said this same exact thing. This has been identified as the most common cause of the high levels in breast cancer, especially in Australia .

A friend whose mother was recently diagnosed with breast cancer. The Doctor told her: women should not drink bottled water that has been left in a car.

The doctor said that the heat and the plastic of the bottle have certain chemicals that can lead to breast cancer. So please be careful and do not drink bottled water that has been left in a car, and, pass this on to all the women in your life. This information is the kind we need to know and be aware and just might save us!!!! The heat causes toxins from the plastic to leak into the water and they have found these toxins in breast tissue. Use a stainless steel Canteen or a glass bottle when you can!!!

Let every one that has a wife/girfriend and daughter know please

If anyone has any information about this, or can verify it as fact, please add to this topic.

Verity. 8)
Author:  Molly [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:28 pm ]
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I read this a long time ago and will not re-use water that has been left out of the fridge for any length of time.

But according to Urban Legends it is false:

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/petbottles.asp
Author:  Starchild [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:55 pm ]
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So urban legends says it is false, but Sheryl Crow's nutritionalist says differently.

To quote -

Don't drink water from a bottle that has been sitting in your car. Heated plastic will bleed toxic substances that can be carcinogenic.

Do NOT cook in olive oil at high heat. This too is carcinogenic. It is fine to saute in olive oil but if you are browning or frying, use canola oil.

Spices that are cancer preventative, particularly prostate and colon cancer, are cinnamon and tumeric.

A high omega 6 diet consisting of fish, colorful vegetables, high fiber foods have proven to be cancer preventative. In Asian and Eskimo cultures, the rate of breast cancer is shockingly lower. Whenever you have a choice, go with color -- brown rice instead of white -- sweet potato instead of regular potato

The last three paragraphs are not untrue, so I wonder whether there is something in the first one.

As a personal choice I will take heed of it and not drink water out of a plastic bottle if it has been in the car exposed to the heat of the sun.

I hate warm water anyway. :D

Verity. 8)
Author:  Molly [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:12 pm ]
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What is/isnt good for you has always been contradictory, for as long as I can remember.

I only said according to Urban Legend, but I also said I would not re-use water that had already been taken out of the fridge.

I suppose it would be alright if it was boiled but personally I wouldn't even do that.
Author:  Molly [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:25 pm ]
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John - thats the web site that I posted above.
Author:  Starchild [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:36 pm ]
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I know it wasn't your personal opinion, Molly.

It is down to individuals to make that decision based on the information that is around. Even though it is conflicting. I found it interesting that three out of four things that were said by Sheryl Crow's nutritionalist were valid. I wonder where she got her source of information.

I just can't find any rock solid research to verify it one way or the other, but as I said, it is no hardship for me not to drink warm bottled water that has sat in my car.

Now others will be aware of a potential problem and can make a choice, too.

Verity. 8)
Author:  maureen [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:08 pm ]
Post subject:  bottled water in car
I am out and about a lot through the day ......so if I buy some bottled water and don't drink it all.....leaving it in the sun then coming home and putting what's remained in the fridge to cool Is that the same then??
Author:  George [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:28 pm ]
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I would personally never use bottled water. The regulations governing it are almost non-existent

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/bottle.html

Check all 3 parts of this report - revealing to say the least.
Author:  terryherbert [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:30 pm ]
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Don't eat or drink anything and you will live for ever :wink:

terry
Author:  Molly [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:54 pm ]
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:agree or sommink like that ......... :lol: :lol:
Author:  Starchild [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:36 am ]
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terryherbert wrote:
Don't eat or drink anything and you will live for ever :wink:

terry


If malnutrition doesn't set in. :wink:

Verity. 8)
Author:  maureen [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:10 am ]
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checked out all the sites and it makes you wonder!!

food for thought ....so to speak!
Author:  Minerva [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:23 am ]
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when i used to go to the Gym [!!] we were advised not to refill plastic bottles with water as they leaked toxins and slowly poisoned you - i now only refill them once and discard. I do carry water in the car, but any remainder I use to water the garden on return - I never re-use it
Ruth
Author:  Molly [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:24 am ]
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Trouble is Maureen, its like everything isn't it.

We could probably list a load of things that we were told was good for us and then a few years down the line, we are told its bad for us :!:

You are damned if you do and damned if you dont :lol:

All you can do is try to do what is good for yourself. :wink: :lol:
Author:  Yakflyer [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bottled Water left in The Sun
Starchild wrote:
The heat causes toxins from the plastic to leak into the water and they have found these toxins in breast tissue. Use a stainless steel Canteen or a glass bottle when you can!!! erity. 8)


I know this statement is not yours, Verity, and that you're only reproducing what you've heard, but my take is that given the incredibly high temperatures required to mould a plastic bottle to shape (the plastic is molten, right?) I find it hard to believe that the any kind of chemical would leach out of plastic in this way at 'hot car' temperatures.

Before any product such as a plastic bottle would be allowed to be used for storing a food or drink product, one would imagine that it has to go through rigorous testing (including extreme heat/extreme cold) procedure etc, just like almost every other product we buy.

What's surprising is that many of us worry about theories like this, yet happily smoke, drink more than is good for us...and even allow dentists to use (mercury) amalgam for our dental fillings. And if you want to see really frightening stuff, see http://www.relfe.com/mercury.html I had all my amalgam fillings taken out years ago, but this procedure must be undertaken by a specialist dentist. Anyway, on with the day. Now, better make sure I don't step in front of that oncoming car :roll:
Author:  Pete [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:21 am ]
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Good post Lloyd, it's post like these that make us worry even more than we already do :roll:
I've even told the missus we can't give our pup water thats been left in the car now, how stupid is that :roll: :D
Author:  ian_the_hse_chap [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:37 pm ]
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This has come up at work a few times as we have extremely high temperatures during the summer....

From what we have been able to gather, along with our occ health collegues pretty much echos Lloyd’s post. We haven’t had any evidence to suggest that there is an issue with chemical leaching from the plastic, as the temperatures would have to be way higher than experienced in a car. That having been said plastic will degrade or deteriorate under intense UV light (see plastic garden furniture that becomes brittle) however it does take quite a while for that process to happen. Of course though you can’t account for poor low quality control in the manufacture so in theory its possible but extremely slim.

Where the risk comes from with bottle water (and even then its a fairly small risk) is bacteria. In general bottled water is allegedly produced in a bacteria free environment but as soon as its opened its exposed to various bacterial contaminants, in the air, on your skin and not least from your mouths, add heat, and cook slowly for a couple of hours and hey presto the bacterial will multiply and you'll end up with bacterially contaminated bottled water...

We've not actually trended or identified an incidences of GI illness attributable to this cause on our project but it is theoretically possible.... usually our issues come from food borne bacteria and illness but that’s another subject.

In general the advice we give our punters is, consume the water as soon as possible after opening, try as much as possible to store in a cool or shaded area and most of all do not freeze (common to keep it cool) and keep in a moving vehicle... (it becomes a missile in the event of an accident.)

In summary, chemical leaching most probably an urban myth but could be possible under certain conditions. Bacterial contamination is an issue but again has many contributing factors. Some or many may or may not be present in any given situation. Bottom line, warm water tastes awful..... but the actual risks are probably negligable.

Cheers for now

Ian
Author:  maureen [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:11 pm ]
Post subject:  water
ok ......im sticking to either glass bottled irn bru, carton of banana milk or wine ha ha!! Will not stick half full bottles of water in fridge to cool after being in the car....fair enough!!
Author:  Yogafan_Pam [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:52 pm ]
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Quote:
"Yorkshire Water is softer and gentler than some mineral waters, it's purer than bottled waters, and it's 10,000 times cheaper," said the company's spokesman Richard Emmott.


This is a subject which I feel strongly about and have done for several years.

Back in 1995 there was a 'drought' - yes I know a few weeks without any rain in Summer in the UK and we get a hosepipe ban and threats of standpipes in the street! :roll:

We were advised by Yorkshire Water that the reserviours were very low, and the quality of the water coming out of the taps could not be guaranteed. I started to buy bottled water then and continue to do so.

We live in a house which is seven years old, therefore the pipework will also be seven years old. At intervals, from the taps upstairs, ensuite and bathroom, a disgusting black substance oozes from the cold water tap, and a mucous like substance from the hot water tap! :eek I clean out the taps with cotton buds but after a few weeks it's back again! Disgusting! :shock:

I boil the tap water for tea, coffee, cooking etc, after it has been through a filter. I certainly would not drink it straight from the tap. Also the smell of chlorine first thing in the morning is very strong - the tap needs to be run for a while to get rid of this.

I do not worry about drinking bottled water, although I would not choose to drink warm bottled water.

Maybe we should worry more about the toxic effects of other (alcoholic) liquids which are inbibed in great quantitites, by many people and also by children under the age of 18, thererby causing social ills of mammoth proportions!

Just my take on it!

Pam :)
Author:  yummy mummy [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:59 pm ]
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One good thing about living in scotland is the tap water is as good if not better than bottled.Two of my boys live in London, and rush for the tap water when they come to stay.they drink bottled in London
Tricia
Author:  Yakflyer [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:46 pm ]
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yummy mummy wrote:
One good thing about living in scotland is the tap water is as good if not better than bottled.Two of my boys live in London, and rush for the tap water when they come to stay.Tricia


But then Trish, isn't Scottish water supposed to be very soft...and isn't prolongued drinking of soft water supposed to contribute towards heart attaccks? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seriously, this is what gets my goat up about all these health warnings from so-called "experts". How many hundreds of thousands were we told would potentially die from the human form of BSE? And how many tens of thousands from Bird Flu? There was a third major scare, but I've forgotten what it is. And now we're all supposed to be at threat from drowning, due to rising sea levels caused by global warning. Frankly, it's all bull****...and just another excuse for governments to tax us...and for them to have us think they're doing us a favour by taxing us.

But hang on a second, we don't live in England anymore...Wow, that's a relief! :D :D :D Lloyd
Author:  maureen [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:20 pm ]
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trish

yeah the one thing i miss about scotland is the water (I can get irn bru in a glass bottle here ha ha) My washing isnt clean when it comes out of the machine and yes i use powder and switch it on!! (before any comments left) but what ive noticed is my teeth ache more here ...due to no floride in the water i believe or am i opening up another can of worms???? hey ho the wine is fine!!
Author:  yummy mummy [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:52 pm ]
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Maureen, Irn Bru, now another can of worms! My OH lived on the stuff and always needed lots of fillings (kids loved it they made lots from emptys)Stopped about 2 years ago teeth a lot better.
As yakflyer says health warnings about everything.
Tricia
Author:  yummy mummy [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:53 pm ]
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Maureen, Irn Bru, now another can of worms! My OH lived on the stuff and always needed lots of fillings (kids loved it they made lots from emptys)Stopped about 2 years ago teeth a lot better.
As yakflyer says health warnings about everything.
Tricia
Author:  Yogafan_Pam [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:12 pm ]
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OMG!

I can't let this go,

Yakflyer wrote
Quote:
But then Trish, isn't Scottish water supposed to be very soft...and isn't prolongued drinking of soft water supposed to contribute towards heart attaccks?


So..... isn't it well known that heart disease is more prevelant in Scotland? I wasn't aware that soft water contributed to this?

My Brian is Scottish born and bred, he left 10 years ago and has recently been diagnosed with high blood pressure, and is now on medication for it. I wouldn't have thought that the tap water was to blame?! :roll:

By the way Trish I lived in Glenrothes for a year - and I still drank only bottled water. Every water company in the UK tells it's customers that their's is the purest and best, they have to to keep the status quo!

Pam :)
Author:  yummy mummy [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:24 pm ]
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Hi pam. small world i was in Glenrothes today,(not been for years) as the gym i use was closed so went there. I live on the coast nr
St andrews and enjoy the water.Where was Brian from?
Tricia
Author:  Yogafan_Pam [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:36 pm ]
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Trish

Brian is from just south of Edinburgh, Loanhead. We 'ran away together' to Glenrothes! Although I ran further than him, from Yorkshire! :D

I had a good job there too, working in Police HQ, loved it, then he got paid off and got a job down south. Sometimes I wish I had dug my heels in and stayed, but you can only move forward - it's no good thinking what if....

We had a lovely day out at St Andrews one time, one of the best areas in Fife!

Pam :D
Author:  Yogafan_Pam [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:39 pm ]
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Oops!

Sorry Tricia, I spelt your name wrong! :oops:

Pam
Author:  yummy mummy [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:46 pm ]
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Never Knew anyone run to Glenrothes :lol: I did live there for a short time but its to big for me.As i said today was first time for years and it was looking very run down.like everwhere good and bad bits. Your next move will be the best yet.Hope all goes well with your plans.
Tricia
Author:  Yakflyer [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:35 am ]
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Yogafan_Pam wrote:
OMG!

So..... isn't it well known that heart disease is more prevelant in Scotland? I wasn't aware that soft water contributed to this?

My Brian is Scottish born and bred, he left 10 years ago and has recently been diagnosed with high blood pressure, and is now on medication for it. I wouldn't have thought that the tap water was to blame?! :roll:


Hi Pam. That's why when you have a soft water installation, they always leave a drinking water supply adjoining your kitchen tap. In England I believe it's against the law NOT to include a hard water supply for drinking. And even when we had a soft water system installed in Cyprus, the installer left a hard water supply adjoining the kitchen tap, for drinking and cooking purposes.

Of course, there are many other things that can adversley affect your heart: smoking, fried bread, black pudding, etc :lol: :lol: :lol:
Lloyd
Author:  Starchild [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:37 am ]
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I have just caught up with the discussions on this post. Really interesting. Lloyd, you have given food for thought over the dental information.

The water in Cyprus is very hard, and we were told that if we drink it over a period of time we will become prone to gallstones. So if that is true, then we won't be prone to coronaries, but will be prone to gallstones?

Can't win, can you?

I don't think I am going to stress over it. My life will end when it ends, whether I worry or not. Probably sooner if I worry. :wink:

Verity. 8)
Author:  Yogafan_Pam [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:27 am ]
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Did you know that a Pathologist can tell where a person is from by the minerals found in the bones, deposited by the type of water in the area?

I shall keep on moving around and drinking bottled water and keep him guessing!! :lol:

Pam 8) (Sunny here again today)
Author:  Yakflyer [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:33 pm ]
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Starchild wrote:
I don't think I am going to stress over it. My life will end when it ends, whether I worry or not. Probably sooner if I worry. :wink: Verity. 8)


That's the way I look at it too, Verity. Take all reasonable precautions and eat and drink sensibly, but after that... :) Lloyd
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