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| Author: | Starchild [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:05 am ] |
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Whilst we were out last night one of the locals was shaking his head and saying that this weather does not bode well. It remained warm even after the sun had gone down - and has been warm all night - and he said that Cypriots say it is a portent for an earthquake. No use worrying about something that may not happen. But if it does don't say you weren't warned. Is anyone's dog acting strangely? 
Verity. 
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| Author: | KG [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:35 am ] |
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This is an Old (Cypriot) Wives Tale. They should be more worried about what they are going to drink, come July, when they have used all the water for washing the paths. We live in a major earthquake zone. An earthquake could happen at any time. The weather has nothing to do with what happens several miles below the earth's crust. |
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| Author: | Neil [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:00 am ] |
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I always see this warm front (warm front ?) do I sound like michael fish  ... as a sign of winter on its way out and summer starting
If I remember right, it did the same thing last year about this time, but then it rained again until mid april, then we got the summer.. correct me if I am wrong ? (The winds of change are upon us  )
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| Author: | Pete [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:48 am ] |
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KG wrote: This is an Old (Cypriot) Wives Tale. They should be more worried about what they are going to drink, come July, when they have used all the water for washing the paths. We live in a major earthquake zone. An earthquake could happen at any time. The weather has nothing to do with what happens several miles below the earth's crust.
I was interested in your post above KG, as a lot of the earths weather patterns are cause by siesmic occurences below the earths crust, don't forget the old analogy, when something bad happens in one place, something good happens on the other side of the planet 
If it wasn't for siesmic activity, then volcano's wouldn't happen which in themsleves cause unforseen weather systems, so saying 'The weather has nothing to do with what happens several miles below the earth's crust' isn't exactly true 
As we are draining the underground caverns of water due to not having sufficient rainful, something needs to give & the earth's crust is very susceptible so if the weather is particularly bad & we have a tropical pourdown like Oct 06, then that amount of water loosens rock formations lower down, causing collapses & rock falls, thus causing earthquakes 
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| Author: | KG [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:35 am ] |
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Cyprus, in fact the whole Eastern Med, is at the junction of two of the Earth's techtonic plates. The two plates are relentlesly moving together. Pressure builds up at the joint until it slips way miles below the earth's surface. The result is an earthquake. What happens several miles above has nothing to do with it (though it could affect local subsidence); however it is interesting to note that the major earthquakes in Kobe and Cyprus coincided with French nuclear weapons tests in the Pacific. There may just have been enough energy imparted by the blast into the Earth's crust to cause a shock wave at the fault line. Despite all the technology the Japanese and the Americans have put into earthquake detection, they are unable to forecast when earthquakes will happen with any degree of certainty - perhaps Verity's neighbour should show them how it is done?
One thing is for certain there will be movement in the Earth's crust around here today, tomorrow and next week. Whether it will reach the tipping point to cause another 'quake then is anyone's guess - but it will happen eventually. |
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| Author: | Pete [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:53 am ] |
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KG wrote: ...What happens several miles above has nothing to do with it (though it could affect local subsidence);
KG, where is the proof that weather conditions have nothing to do with siesmic events  A simple landslide in the oceans can cause an earthquake/Tsunami on land 
Lightening strike the earth several billions time a year, who's to say that this doesn't more damage than we know
Las Palmas in the Canaries is slowly spliting apart due to water buildup from rain storms & heat from the earth, when this finally faulters, it will create a massive, off the rictor scale earthquake & landslide, which in turn will create the largest Tsunami know to man, which after approx 6-8hrs flattern the majority of the USA eastern board coast line
So I say again, how can you say the weather has nothing to do with siesmic events
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| Author: | Pete [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:15 pm ] |
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Check out the last Q&A at the bottom of this link: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learning/kids/eqscience.php No proof either way to say weather has any effect on earthquakes
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| Author: | KG [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:40 pm ] |
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Pete I am not sure how this thread about Verity's neighbour's, suggestion that because we have had a warm night that this is a precursor to earthquake has morphed into a discussion about tsunamis? In the case of the potential for the Canaries to wet the feet of our American friends, this would be attributable to the same seismic issue that affects Cyprus. The Canaries sit on another tectonic boundary that runs down the Atlantic ocean and owe their existence to it. As most of the plates. In fact most of the tectonic boundaries are under the sea, hence the possibility for underwater landslips. 
The odd warm night in Cyprus is not going to affect whether the earth will move for you ... though you may get lucky
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| Author: | stormy [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:49 pm ] |
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Looks as though we are due a coptic storm over the weekend , should help out with all the kite flying
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| Author: | Bassman62 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:51 pm ] |
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In June 1966 an astrologer predicted that on one particular Sunday Cyprus would collapse and fall into the Med, she said that one of the volcanic columns that supported Cyprus would give way, this was a few weeks before my Wife joined me, so we laid on our pits (army beds) getting thouroughly intoxicated and hurling all sorts of obscenities at the Gods, it must have worked because Cyprus is still there.
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| Author: | Pete [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:52 pm ] |
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KG, I can understand what you're saying about Cyprus sitting on the edge of a tectonic plate as shown in your map but the Canaries is no where near the edge of a plate from what I can see
Did you read my very last post & check out the link I posted, its from the USGS who say there is no proof that the weather does or does not effect earthquakes
As for Verity's neighbours knowing an earthquake will happen soon due to the weather change, well won't some people have egg on their faces if we get one very soon
This topic is open to all sorts of equations & events, all controlled by mother nature, so why try to dispel something that has never been disproved
I for one think everything is interlinked with the weather as it the one constant phenomenon that causes havoc world wide on a daily basis
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| Author: | Neil [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:56 pm ] |
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I was told this island was bigger on top, than it is underwater .. kinda like a mushroom .. dont know the truth of that ?? ... |
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| Author: | Bassman62 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:58 pm ] |
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Neil wrote: I was told this island was bigger on top, than it is underwater ..
kinda like a mushroom .. dont know the truth of that ?? ... Some of the columns may have already collapsed.
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| Author: | Pete [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:58 pm ] |
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I think that is probably an impossibility or it might topple over
Can honestly say I've never heard that one before sounds like you've been on the mushrooms mate
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| Author: | Neil [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:05 pm ] |
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Quote: sounds like you've been on the mushrooms mate
last night .... with a creamy pepper sauce,, went nice with my pork chop...
its only what I heard ? |
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| Author: | Pete [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:10 pm ] |
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You never know mate, it could be true
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| Author: | KG [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:15 pm ] |
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I read the link. Including the quote "Can scientists predict earthquakes? No, and it is unlikely they will ever be able to predict them. Scientists have tried many different ways of predicting earthquakes, but none have been successful. On any particular fault, scientists know there will be another earthquake sometime in the future, but they have no way of telling when it will happen." - see this link too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_weather. The Canaries are a group of volcanic islands in the Atlantic, they were forced up from the ocean bed by the movement of the African plate away from the Caribbean plate, which caused a weakness in the earth's crust allowing a volcanic eruption to create the islands. It is this continuing volcanic activity that is at the root of the speculation about the potential for a landslip at La Palma. Quote: As for Verity's neighbours knowing an earthquake will happen soon due to the weather change, well won't some people have egg on their faces if we get one very soon As I said in my first post, the chance of an earthquake today, tomorrow or next week is just as likely with or without the weather. Earthquakes in Cyprus are an inevitable consequence of the geology.
Earthquakes here happen every day - most of them imperceptible. The big one in February 1995 happened at 11pm on a freezing cold night. The one in October 1996 on a sunny afternoon. Earthquakes do however affect the weather and often cause lightening storms. |
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| Author: | Starchild [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:52 pm ] |
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I don't think the guy I spoke to went into as much depth as the discussions on this topic.
The warm winds are probably El Hassam which is supposed to last for around 8 days. To answer Neil's question at the beginning, it was just like this last year. My SIL was over and we were in shorts and t-shirts, but we soon went back to our jumpers in April. I haven't felt the earth move so far today, anyway. Verity.
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| Author: | Bassman62 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:38 pm ] |
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Hi Verity, Whats's that coffee you like? we'll stick some in our crates for you, talking of volcanos its not Red Mountain is it? |
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| Author: | Starchild [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:48 pm ] |
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No John, it's Dow Egberts Continental Gold. I am on my last jar at the moment. 
Verity.
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| Author: | Bassman62 [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:54 pm ] |
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Sorry we're not out till the end of April but we'll bring some anyway. |
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| Author: | Starchild [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:59 pm ] |
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No problem John. I am sure I can survive. I make Phil drink Nescafe instant - or whatever else he buys - but I do take pity on guests and let them have my DE. Sometimes we even push the boat out and percolate a pot of fresh coffee.
Anyway, I am now going off my own topic, so apologies to those who are losing the will to live hearing about my coffee problem.
Verity.
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| Author: | discopants [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:21 pm ] |
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Well look folks, you are gonna get an earthquake very soon because I've read in other threads that dogs have been looking at and barking at the walls. It can only mean one thing............................................EARTHQUAKE !! |
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| Author: | Starchild [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:25 pm ] |
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Starchild wrote: No use worrying about something that may not happen. But if it does don't say you weren't warned.
Is anyone's dog acting strangely? Verity. My thoughts exactly. That was what got me started on this thread.
Verity.
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| Author: | Jolly Green Giant [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:33 pm ] |
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My dog's not acting strangely. He's doing his usual thing.......... sleeping, eating a & farting........ |
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| Author: | Starchild [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:45 pm ] |
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Dog farts. How bad are they!!?? I would change his diet if I were you. Verity.
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| Author: | karen [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:55 pm ] |
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Actually, Jasper is acting a bit strange! He is a little more subdued than normal, won't pee in his usual spot, has slept part of the day on the top stair and only mildly grumbles at the cats (have I just described Owen, well England are losing??). Maybe, he just feels that way out today, not farting thank goodness but still belching like billyho (that's Jasper, certainly not Owen, although between the both of them I swear it's like living with Bernard Manning and Chubby Brown)?? Karen x |
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| Author: | cypriotsid [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:01 pm ] |
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Neil wrote: Quote: sounds like you've been on the mushrooms mate last night .... with a creamy pepper sauce,, went nice with my pork chop... its only what I heard ? Were they magic ones
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| Author: | Trollydolly [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:45 pm ] |
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My dogs acting strange tonight but I think its the fact that the TV reception is a bit iffy and I was trying to watch Barnsley/Chelsea So the stomping about has upset him nothing to do with an earth q --or is it. Marj
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| Author: | BigDutch [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:48 pm ] |
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3 quakes in Cyprus region in just two days people !!!!
7th March @ 21.11 there was a earthquake NW of Cyprus 7th March @ 08:53 an earthquake 25km SE of Ayia Napa 6th March @ 20:44 an earthquake 51km E of Nicosia |
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| Author: | Bassman62 [ Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:36 am ] |
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If there is an earthquake in Cyprus I wonder if the costs will run as high as those of Barnsley where the estimated cost of rebuilding the town has reached a staggering £871,42p along with a disputed claim by Beattie Swallocks for a pot dog that fell over, this would represent at £15,09p the highest individual claim so far. |
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| Author: | Pete [ Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:23 pm ] |
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KG wrote: Earthquakes here happen every day - most of them imperceptible. The big one in February 1995 happened at 11pm on a freezing cold night. The one in October 1996 on a sunny afternoon.
KG, You forgot the 6.5 in Aug 1999, on a sunny day, outside temp was 45c at the coast in Akrotiri - I know this as I was stationed here when it happened my office chair was thrown across the room with me in it, I spent the next 12 hours checking & double checking for leaks in under ground fuel containers 
I believe that Istanbul was flatterned soon after by a 7.2 the same year
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| Author: | Terrier Chris [ Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:59 pm ] |
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Bassman62 wrote: If there is an earthquake in Cyprus I wonder if the costs will run as high as those of Barnsley where the estimated cost of rebuilding the town has reached a staggering £871,42p along with a disputed claim by Beattie Swallocks for a pot dog that fell over, this would represent at £15,09p the highest individual claim so far.
John As a Barnsley born and bred lass, I can imagine the town going "Balmy Sam" but have never heard of Beattie Swallocks am I missing something?? Chris I |
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| Author: | KG [ Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:44 pm ] |
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Pete wrote: You forgot the 6.5 in Aug 1999, on a sunny day, outside temp was 45c at the coast in Akrotiri Ah! it must have been caused by the weather;) I didn't comment on that one because I was not on the island at the time.
The 1995 quake cause a lot of damage around Ineia. The harbour at Latchi was extensively damaged, and an elderly couple were crushed when the roof of their village house fell in. The government picked up the tab for the damage, which is why a load of properties around Ineia, which had not been occupied for years, suddenly found themselves being restored
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| Author: | Starchild [ Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:40 pm ] |
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I call the road between Kato Arodes and Ineia Earthquake Road. You can see why when you drive it. Verity.
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| Author: | Pete [ Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:59 pm ] |
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KG wrote: Ah! it must have been caused by the weather
KG, you're slipping, you made a joke
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