Yes, it seems we should follow their customs when we are in their country and also follow their customs when they are in our country. Respect works both ways...

Barbecued pork and plenty of beer at an early lunch

That's the proper way to start a holiday

Yes, it seems we should follow their customs when we are in their country and also follow their customs when they are in our country. Respect works both ways...

Correct, but are you suggesting the Muslims from the "north" do not respect the Christian customs here in the south?
I have to say I dislike the tone of your post.
Geoff.

It is not a Christian custom to restrict the freedom of females .... or encourage them to speak through a curtain of fabric, Geoff !

I have to say I dislike the tone of your post.

Believe it or not a true Muslim believe in our faith, they believes in Jesus Christ as well as Allah, it is the idiots that use the faith against us they are the ones we need to wipe out.

In our own history we were not exactly innocent, just look at the crusades, watch the film Kingdom of Heaven and read various books

Well Geoff, I'm very sorry if you don't like the 'tone' of my post. What 'tone' do you think it is?

I read the tone of your post as tending towards being anti-Islam.
Geoff.

Geoff,

I am a Christian. Plain and simple. Whilst I have respect for everyone's belief in other faiths, I clearly think that there is only one true God.

However, you should be aware that the meaning of "Islam" is "Submit" and that submission is the basic tenet of the muslim faith. Everyone has to submit to it that's what's happening in the West at the moment. Have you ever been to Israel? Every mosque which exists there has been built on a Jewish synagogue - including the Dome of the Rock. The Jews, for their part, have respected all mosques as places of worship. As Uncle D has said, there is a similar attitude towards places of worship in the TRNC and ROC.

This 'submission' is both religious and cultural. Under these circumstances am I anti Islam? Yes, you can surely count on it. I am anti submission to their religion and culture. I'm sorry if that offends you, but that seems to be the problem in the West - we don't want to offend anyone.

However, if you re-phrase the question to am I anti muslims? No. As I already stated I am a Christian and a basic tenet of my faith is to love everyone. That's what I try to do. Sorry if that offends you. It seems that

It is not a Christian custom to restrict the freedom of females .... or encourage them to speak through a curtain of fabric, Geoff !

Thanks for your clarification David G. I did not say I was offended by your post, just that I disliked the tone of it.
I am also a Christian, but it seems a more tolerant one than your goodself.
What were your views on what the Archbishop of Cyprus had to say on TV recently - remarks that caused some to accuse him of being a racist? The Attorney General concluded his remarks were not hatred and racism, but I gather from the media reports it is likely to finish up in the Supreme
Court and then possibly the ECJ.
Geoff.

I am also a Christian, but it seems a more tolerant one than your goodself.

Thanks for your clarification David G. I did not say I was offended by your post, just that I disliked the tone of it.
I am also a Christian, but it seems a more tolerant one than your goodself.
What were your views on what the Archbishop of Cyprus had to say on TV recently - remarks that caused some to accuse him of being a racist? The Attorney General concluded his remarks were not hatred and racism, but I gather from the media reports it is likely to finish up in the Supreme
Court and then possibly the ECJ.
Geoff.

For Hudswell:
You don't know anything about me or my faith - I have already stated my religion etc.
Please do not make assumptions.
Noted about David G. I see in his latest post he disagrees with women ministers in the (Christian) Church. That is up to him but in the context of this thread where it has been said that Muslims treat their women as un-equals his stance is laughable. Do as I do, not as I say, comes to mind.
He did not comment on the remarks made by the Archbishop of Cyprus - I wonder why not.
My bottom line is Live and let Live.
The differences between the two great religions have been around since Jesus was alive, and well exploited for various reasons, not least to justify numerous wars. This irony was well demonstrated
in WWII when both sides claimed to have God on their side.
Geoff.
P.S. For Wavy Dave: sorry I thought you were agreeing with David G. My error.

More women are coming to the fore, especially in politics. Not that all will be of good intent ... but it may make for a more gentle world ...... I hope !!!

You mean examples such as; Thatcher, Merkel, Abbott & Sturgeon?

The south africans have a saying;
Remember that it is the lioness that does the killing!

Be careful what you wish for.

Noted about David G...He did not comment on the remarks made by the Archbishop of Cyprus - I wonder why not.

The differences between the two great religions have been around since Jesus was alive

My bottom line is Live and let Live.

The differences between the two great religions have been around since Jesus was alive, .

forgetting that 1000s have already taken out Turkish Cypriot citizenship!.
Geoff.

Given that the TRNC is an illegal entity not recognised by any country except Turkey, how does that work?

It doesn't. Just more made up nonsense.

There is no such place as Turkish Cyprus, let alone Turkish Cypriot Citizens. There is only Cyprus.

Immigrants from Turkey are there illegally.

And everyone knows that.

What exactly has the above got to do with Ramadan?
Answer: nothing! we don't know, Geoff. You are the person that posted it. Maybe you could enlighten us.
I await an answer about the Archbishop's comments. why? When you have the answer already!I live in hopes, but will probably die in despair.
Geoff.

I await an answer about the Archbishop's comments. I live in hopes, but will probably die in despair.
Geoff.

Well Geoff, I'm very sorry if you don't like the 'tone' of my post. What 'tone' do you think it is?

Just so that there is no doubt, I dislike the 'tone' of Islam demanding that the indigenous population of any country they are in, respect and fall in line with their culture without reciprocating. I dislike the fact that so many supermarkets pander to their 'requirement' for halal food without feeling the need to tell the rest of us. I dislike the advice given to businesses to ensure that their non muslim workers do not eat at their desks during Ramadan. I dislike the advice given that there should be separate cooking facilities (even microwaves) so that if you they don't have to smell bacon. I dislike the way 'Happy Christmas' is now 'Happy Holidays' so as not to offend muslims. I dislike the way the term 'Easter' was taken off Easter Eggs (now halal) in order not to offend. I dislike the way that the PC Brigade (which presumably because you dislike the 'tone' of my post, includes you) has apologised for, and in many instances covered up the root causes of serious crime in order NOT to offend 'our muslim community'. Look at the grooming scandal in Rotherham for an example of where this policy led.

I stand by what I said which is that respect works both ways, but for muslims it only works one way - theirs.

Unfortunately, we have pandered to their 'requirements' for far too long. Our culture is being changed constantly and surreptitiously, and I for one do not like it.

Given that the TRNC is an illegal entity not recognised by any country except Turkey, how does that work?

Got to hand it to Geoffrey,, after announcing his retirement from several forums, he lasted about a month, before the urge to post yet more wind ups, has become to much so he comesback with a corker.......take a bow Geoff no one does wind ups like you...

Pot calling the kettle black me-thinks.
My reasons for coming back have been well documented.
Geoff.