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| Author: | Topgun [ Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Authorisation sms system flawed |
My wife & I share a single smart phone, as I don't want one after years of being 'pestered' on the damn things in my business dealings! However, a couple of days ago I attempted to send an sms message for permission to leave the house, following my wife's earlier solo shopping trip the same day. This was declined on the basis the one allowable trip per day had already been authorised, yet my wife left the house on her own. From this experience, I can only surmise the government system only records the phone number of the caller, NOT the ID number which make it 'personal' for people sharing a phone as we do. This is clearly unsatisfactory for us, so in future we will not be sending an sms message, but simply completing the printable form B & carrying it with us |
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| Author: | tanny [ Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
My wife visited the vets early in the morning with permission for doctors, then later we had to go out and made the sms for number 2 getting in the car. The message sent and battery died, when we got back to recharge the return message was a decline for a second trip out, again from same phone! Just lucky not to have been pulled. |
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| Author: | M.A.D [ Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
Form is OK providing you are over 65 Maybe you could you already have an old phone lying about or you could buy something cheap and cheerful. Stick in a Cyprus sim card and ONLY turn it on to make your sms call then switch it back off..no pestering then Just an idea 
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| Author: | Topgun [ Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
Quote: Maybe you could you already have an old phone lying about or you could buy something cheap and cheerful. Stick in a Cyprus sim card and ONLY turn it on to make your sms call then switch it back off..no pestering then I could, but if the government has invented a system that isn't working as it should, then I would suggest they fix it! Particularly one where they are intending to apply fines/ or a prison sentence for 'non-compliance'. The excretia will hit the rotovator at some point I'm sure, especially if a person is taken to court & lawyers become involved. |
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| Author: | M.A.D [ Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
Ah but IS the system faulty or is it indeed working they actually intended it to by making it more difficult to go outside  Have they been really clever / sneaky |
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| Author: | tanny [ Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
Or maybe its a way to track people only by mobile movement...... |
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| Author: | Effsie [ Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
Topgun wrote: but if the government has invented a system that isn't working as it should, then I would suggest they fix it! I suggest that the system is working exactly as designed. There has to be the assumption that every person has their own phone. By assuming that 1 phone = 1 person (potentially regardless of alien number used) they can monitor the number of times that a person tries to go out. Operating the system that way also enables the government to identify people trying to go out more than once by using, say, their alien number, then again with their passport number. Given the speed with which this was done, and allowing for the initial glitch, I think they have done a very good job with it. |
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| Author: | Alexis [ Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
I agree with the comment by Effsie above. Until the latest movement restrictions from 0600 Tuesday 31 March it was possible for two people to use the same mobile phone number to send a text to SMS 8998. As with any system it needs to be fine tuned and there were ways around the one permitted outing per day per person using the SMS system (people should be careful what they put on FB). However, I feel the way some people were making multiple and/or unnecessary requests to go out in the early days when this system was introduced also played an important factor in the way the system now functions. |
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| Author: | Topgun [ Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
To clarify my point for those suffering with a bout of '747 complex'; Why ask applicants to include their ID/passport number, if the 'System' does not differentiate the applicant based upon this information, but simply uses the mobile phone number? It does suggest 'big brother' on the one hand wants the 'evidence' against the individual on record, but does not contrive to segregate the permissions from a similar perspective. Call me cynical if you like! 
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| Author: | cameraman [ Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
The system is PERFECT. Those that try to fault the system are being caught out. Excellent. 
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| Author: | Old Twister [ Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
Topgun wrote: To clarify my point for those suffering with a bout of '747 complex'; Why ask applicants to include their ID/passport number, if the 'System' does not differentiate the applicant based upon this information, but simply uses the mobile phone number? Because they realised that people could get more than one permission with your suggestion. One using the ID (ARC) number and another using the passport number. That's 4 permits for a couple of people. Surely you are bright enough to work that one out! 
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| Author: | Effsie [ Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
Topgun wrote: To clarify my point for those suffering with a bout of '747 complex'; Why ask applicants to include their ID/passport number, if the 'System' does not differentiate the applicant based upon this information, but simply uses the mobile phone number? Presumably that way whoever checks the text message (police, army etc) can compare the number against the passport/alien slip that you have with you, thereby preventing people sharing permissions to make multiple trips. I know I am repeating myself, but I genuinely think that the government have done a really good job with this. Given the scale of it, there will always be one or two people who aren't happy, but that isn't the government's fault. Sorry, but I don't think you can win this argument as everyone else seems to agree that it is working well. Personally I struggle to believe it every day when I get the permission back before I get the confirmation that the text has been sent. Well done Cyprus!  (Can't find Cyprus flag smilie, so here is the next best thing). |
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| Author: | Topgun [ Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
Quote: Surely you are bright enough to work that one out! As you say, but I'm curious as to who had to explain it to you?
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| Author: | DollyDaydream1 [ Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
It's working perfectly well as most individuals have a phone each - it's an issue with you not the system if you don't want one!
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| Author: | Uncle D [ Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
DollyDaydream1 wrote: It's working perfectly well as most individuals have a phone each - it's an issue with you not the system if you don't want one! I agree, blaming others for you own shortcomings. Its common sense for people to have phones for emergencies etc |
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| Author: | Old Twister [ Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
Topgun wrote: Quote: Surely you are bright enough to work that one out! As you say, but I'm curious as to who had to explain it to you? Surely you can do better than that!  
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| Author: | Topgun [ Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
Quote: Surely you can do better than that! Trust me I can, but I think my views are clear enough already. 
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| Author: | Mouse [ Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Authorisation sms system flawed |
The sms system isn't flawed, too many people wanted to go out at once, so it restricted them ! In my book it works . |
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