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Author:  M.A.D [ Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Cyprus to buy 50,000 Sputnik V jabs pending EMA approval
Cyprus decides to buy 50,000 Sputnik V jabs pending EMA approval

t has been decided to buy an amount of the Russian Sputnik V vaccine once it will be approved by the European Medicines Agency, government spokesman Kyriakos Koushos told state radio.

The decision was made two weeks ago but only announced on Tuesday.

“It will be a bilateral agreement. This decision was approved fortnight ago,” he said.

“The issue is being handled by the health minister. Once we have the vaccine approved, we will proceed with the purchase.”

He added it has been decided to purchase 50,000 vaccines and there is a possibility of an increase depending on the availability of other vaccines.

The EU has approved four vaccines so far and has signed deals with Western vaccine makers on behalf of the 27-member bloc, but production glitches have slowed the rollout and some member states are seeking their own solutions.

Hungary and Slovakia have acquired the Russian vaccine, and the Czech Republic has said it may place an order.

A health ministry spokesperson in Cyprus told Reuters last week authorities could not take a position on whether the specific vaccine or any other vaccine should be approved unless all available data was assessed by the EMA.

The EMA had on March 4 announced it had started a rolling review of the vaccine. That review would speed up any approval process by allowing researchers to submit findings in real-time before final trial data is ready.

The shot’s efficacy was initially greeted with scepticism by some Western scientists after Russia approved it in August last year without waiting for the results of full clinical trials.

However, scientists said it was almost 92% effective in fighting COVID-19, based on peer-reviewed late-stage trial results published in The Lancet medical journal last month.

The two-shot vaccine uses two different weakened common cold viruses to deliver immune-building protein to the human body.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/03/16/coronavirus-cyprus-decides-to-buy-50000-sputnik-v-jabs-pending-ema-approval/

STANDBY...STANDBY :lol:
Author:  Effsie [ Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyprus to buy 50,000 Sputnik V jabs pending EMA approval
I know some members will feel differently, but there is no way that I am going to be given a Russian made vaccine. Given the way that they behave about so many things, I just couldn't trust it. :-(
Author:  Old Twister [ Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyprus to buy 50,000 Sputnik V jabs pending EMA approval
If ever 'forced' to do so I would rather take the Russian vaccine rather than the Moderna or Pfizer mRNA experimental injections!
Author:  migmogs [ Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyprus to buy 50,000 Sputnik V jabs pending EMA approval
The Russian Sputnik V vaccine

Has been proved to be an excellent vaccine in the fight against covid 19
It was as you say MAD well reviewed by scientific peers in the Lancet
Author:  Effsie [ Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyprus to buy 50,000 Sputnik V jabs pending EMA approval
Old Twister wrote:
If ever 'forced' to do so I would rather take the Russian vaccine rather than the Moderna or Pfizer mRNA experimental injections!

They all have to be approved, which means that none of them are experimental. Pfizer for me every time (well, this time anyway and see where we go from there.

The Russian vaccination may be okay, but there are so many bad things going on in that country I just wouldn't trust anything that they produce.
Author:  Old Twister [ Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyprus to buy 50,000 Sputnik V jabs pending EMA approval
Effsie wrote:
Old Twister wrote:
If ever 'forced' to do so I would rather take the Russian vaccine rather than the Moderna or Pfizer mRNA experimental injections!

They all have to be approved, which means that none of them are experimental. Pfizer for me every time (well, this time anyway and see where we go from there.

The Russian vaccination may be okay, but there are so many bad things going on in that country I just wouldn't trust anything that they produce.


Nothing to do with whether they are approved or not. It is widely accepted that mRNA so called vaccines are experimental as it's totally new technology that has never ever been tried out on humans before. I say 'so called vaccines' because it has been clearly stated that the injections do not meet the traditional definition of the word vaccine, but I am not going to explain further. The information is out there for those who want to pursue it.
Author:  Effsie [ Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyprus to buy 50,000 Sputnik V jabs pending EMA approval
Old Twister wrote:
Nothing to do with whether they are approved or not. It is widely accepted that mRNA so called vaccines are experimental as it's totally new technology that has never ever been tried out on humans before. I say 'so called vaccines' because it has been clearly stated that the injections do not meet the traditional definition of the word vaccine, but I am not going to explain further. The information is out there for those who want to pursue it.

Sorry, but I can't take your comments seriously while you keep referring to "so called vaccines" and "experimental injections".

Can we just agree to differ?
Author:  Old Twister [ Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyprus to buy 50,000 Sputnik V jabs pending EMA approval
Effsie wrote:
Old Twister wrote:
Nothing to do with whether they are approved or not. It is widely accepted that mRNA so called vaccines are experimental as it's totally new technology that has never ever been tried out on humans before. I say 'so called vaccines' because it has been clearly stated that the injections do not meet the traditional definition of the word vaccine, but I am not going to explain further. The information is out there for those who want to pursue it.

Sorry, but I can't take your comments seriously while you keep referring to "so called vaccines" and "experimental injections".

Can we just agree to differ?

We can agree to differ if you like, but one fact is that the Pfizer & Moderna jabs have not received full FDA approval, just for 'emergency use authorization' only. I have already explained why I call them experimental which has been generally accepted, although you won't hear it from the BBC.
Author:  Effsie [ Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyprus to buy 50,000 Sputnik V jabs pending EMA approval
Old Twister wrote:
one fact is that the Pfizer & Moderna jabs have not received full FDA approval, just for 'emergency use authorization' only.

I don't see how this is relevant as the FDA covers the USA, not Cyprus. Remember also that the FDA are people who think it is fine to smother chicken in chlorine! I think that you will find that all the vaccines used in Cyprus are approved by the relevant authorities in both the EU and Cyprus.

Old Twister wrote:
I have already explained why I call them experimental which has been generally accepted, although you won't hear it from the BBC.

What is generally accepted meant to mean in your sentence? The phrase generally accepted means accepted by the majority of people. With a world population of just over 7.6 billion people, that would suggest you are claiming that at least 4 billion people call the vaccines experimental, which I cannot accept as being even close to the truth.

If, however, you mean generally accepted by conspiracy theorists and anti vaxers then I would be inclined to believe your statement.
Author:  Old Twister [ Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyprus to buy 50,000 Sputnik V jabs pending EMA approval
In regard to your part 1 - I think you will find that if the FDA hadn't given them the minimum 'Emergency Use Only' approval, the Companies would not have been allowed to go ahead with their manufacture for any Country. Please do your research to see if I am correct or not and I will admit if I am not!

In regard to your part 2 - It doesn't even justify my time to comment on such a silly point.
Author:  Effsie [ Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyprus to buy 50,000 Sputnik V jabs pending EMA approval
Old Twister wrote:
In regard to your part 1 - I think you will find that if the FDA hadn't given them the minimum 'Emergency Use Only' approval, the Companies would not have been allowed to go ahead with their manufacture for any Country. Please do your research to see if I am correct or not and I will admit if I am not!

In regard to your part 2 - It doesn't even justify my time to comment on such a silly point.

So, you want me to do some research on whether the USA has control over the manufacture of non USA drugs and present it to you so that you can admit if you are wrong?

Your response to part 2 is just what I thought you would say if you didn't have a rational answer.

Discussion over.
Author:  Old Twister [ Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyprus to buy 50,000 Sputnik V jabs pending EMA approval
Effsie wrote:
Old Twister wrote:
In regard to your part 1 - I think you will find that if the FDA hadn't given them the minimum 'Emergency Use Only' approval, the Companies would not have been allowed to go ahead with their manufacture for any Country. Please do your research to see if I am correct or not and I will admit if I am not!

In regard to your part 2 - It doesn't even justify my time to comment on such a silly point.

So, you want me to do some research on whether the USA has control over the manufacture of non USA drugs and present it to you so that you can admit if you are wrong?

Your response to part 2 is just what I thought you would say if you didn't have a rational answer.

Discussion over.

Non USA drugs you say. I think you will find that both Pfizer and Moderna are both USA based pharma companies.
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