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| Author: | M.A.D [ Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/01/03/masks-and-mandatory-tests-following-covid-outbreak/ |
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| Author: | migmogs [ Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
M.A.D wrote: What was very worrying in that report ...was that care workers are going to be made to have to have up to date vaccinations against covid ...in order to go to work! |
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| Author: | Yakflyer [ Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
So anyone going to a dentist is required to wear a mask? And as soon as they sit in the dentist's chair they have to take the mask off and open their mouth within 30cm-40cm of the dentist and hygienist. Can anyone explain the logic of this? Just as illogical as being required to wear a mask while walking along the street in a previous incarnation. Utterly bonkers! |
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| Author: | tanny [ Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
What a load of crock, anyone who knows me will also be aware that i stated last year the oncoming masking protocols which are nothing more than stealing your freedoms and your money and control. If you are afraid of the flu then go deal with it yourself and let everyone else flourish or sniffle together. |
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| Author: | clive of payia [ Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Don't you feel another Lockdown is coming? Far too many anti-globalist political victories have taken place, particularly in Europe, and Trump is well ahead in the American polls. Whilst the public may accept the wearing of masks in hospitals and nursing homes etc. restrictions on the freedom of movement I feel will be wildly ignored. |
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| Author: | Mouse [ Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Democratic republic of Cyprus. what amounts to forced vacination for some does give me a good feeling and i dont think is very democratic, im sure many will disagree ! Yak flier , yes wearing a mask at a dentist ! In the waiting room i guess, but in surgery! As a side issue i have found the covid masks very good to keep the soot out of my nose when cleaning oil fired c/h boilers . |
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| Author: | Mouse [ Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Yakflier, you said " can anyone explain the logic of this ? " I believe the point is , ,,,we are all meant to do what we are told without question just like good little automatons they are hope to make us become ! |
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| Author: | Effsie [ Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
migmogs wrote: M.A.D wrote: What was very worrying in that report ...was that care workers are going to be made to have to have up to date vaccinations against covid ...in order to go to work! Why is that worrying? Surely care workers should already be vaccinated? My mother is in a nursing home (in the UK) and all their staff are fully vaccinated. |
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| Author: | Effsie [ Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Yakflyer wrote: So anyone going to a dentist is required to wear a mask? And as soon as they sit in the dentist's chair they have to take the mask off and open their mouth within 30cm-40cm of the dentist and hygienist. Can anyone explain the logic of this? Just as illogical as being required to wear a mask while walking along the street in a previous incarnation. Utterly bonkers! The logic is to try and avoid the spread of the virus. I wasn't aware that the requirement to wear masks in hospitals and dental surgeries was ever rescinded. If you go to Dr Lenia, she has a huge sign on the entry door saying that masks must be worn. |
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| Author: | migmogs [ Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Effsie wrote: migmogs wrote: M.A.D wrote: What was very worrying in that report ...was that care workers are going to be made to have to have up to date vaccinations against covid ...in order to go to work! Why is that worrying? Surely care workers should already be vaccinated? My mother is in a nursing home (in the UK) and all their staff are fully vaccinated. Effie sadly it has been absolutely proven that being vaccinated does not stop anyone from catching the virus ..or from passing the virus on .... so making anyone have a vaccine which could seriously injure them and will not protect them mandatory is so wrong! They should be able to make their own minds up on what they themselves want to do to their own bodies ! |
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| Author: | tanny [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
It has been proven and admitted by the Fauci himself that the vax does not protect, it does not stop the spread and it does not do any of the promises on the tin, and was never designed to do so. Its for social control and money simple. Every peer reviewed paper subsequent to the reopening of society has shown this and the massive number of legal cases now follows this up. If you want a vax then carry on have a whooping time (oh sorry its now called the 100 day cough to scare you)/ |
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| Author: | Effsie [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
tanny wrote: Its for social control and money simple. Unfortunately it is impossible to take you seriously when you make comments like that. |
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| Author: | Effsie [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
migmogs wrote: so making anyone have a vaccine which could seriously injure them and will not protect them mandatory is so wrong! Presumably you also refuse to cross the road, given that the risk of being injured crossing the road is very significantly greater than any risk from a vaccine. |
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| Author: | Effsie [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Sadly, one of the biggest risks is anti vaxxers, as these are the same people who actively ignore the rules in place to try and prevent the spread of covid, and are happy to walk the streets, go to the shops and sit on aeroplanes when they know that they have the virus, happily spreading it to those around them with no thought as to how many people might die from their actions. I am very sorry to say that those who refuse to follow the rules and manage to convinvce themselves that governments trying to protect their citizens is a bad thing, are among the most selfish people that you could ever come across. |
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| Author: | migmogs [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Effsie wrote: migmogs wrote: so making anyone have a vaccine which could seriously injure them and will not protect them mandatory is so wrong! Presumably you also refuse to cross the road, given that the risk of being injured crossing the road is very significantly greater than any risk from a vaccine. I was absolutely FOR the vaccines for covid. And bought into the idea that it would save not only myself but the world ...in fact they promised us all 85-95% efficacy...and told us that we would not only be immune to the virus...but that we wouldn’t pass it on either ...all lies! ..the vaccines have been proven in fact to be 0.85% efficacy and people who are vaccinated can absolutely pass on the covid virus ...same as everyone else not vaccinated My husband and myself had 3 shots of the covid vaccines they frightened us so much and built up the efficacy of these vaccines so much ......my heart became ill within 2 weeks after the second vaccine ....with Atrial Fibrillation ..and I was in and out of hospital for months ..after my 3rd vaccine.... I developed pericarditis My husband was rushed into hospital , very poorly within hours of his 2 nd covid injection high temp, numb all the way down one side of his body, problems breathing ...different batch number as done in different places on different days ...so no connection at all We still as we really believed in what the governments told us that we needed these vaccines which is why even after being made ill ...we had the 3rd booster .....after knowing then about my pericarditis ...we both sat back and did lots of research on what exactly was happening ....And decided that these covid vaccines where not for us! And stopped them ..we have had no covid vaccines since Dec 2021 We saw and heard of how many injuries where actually happening to healthy people from these vaccines Astra Zeneca was quietly pulled because of the amount of injuries caused We have had our normal flu vaccines, pneumonia vaccines and shingles vaccines ...so we are NOT antivaxxers at all But have to be honest ...as soon as they make the normal vaccines into MRNA vaccines. We will stop those also immediately What we have done as a couple ....is made the decision to build up our innate immune system ...with vitamins D3 K2 C and zinc Which will help our bodies fight off all viruses! Take care and stay healthy all |
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| Author: | Effsie [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
migmogs wrote: the vaccines have been proven in fact to be 0.85% efficacy Less than 1% effective? Really? I have never seen anything promising that the vaccine would prevent you from catching covid. I have always understood that it was designed to reduce the effects and, hopefully, stop you from dying from it. If two of you became ill after receiving the vaccine and it was confirmed that the vaccine was responsible, then you are incredibly unlucky, although I imagine that is of no consolation. Billions of successful doses have been given and I am certain that a great number of people are still alive because of it. |
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| Author: | Mouse [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Effsie in one post you said " the biggest threat we face is from antivaxxers " In you next post you said " i have never seen anything promising thatvthe vaccine would prevent you catching covid" . Do i misunderstand what you mean by " antivaxxer " is it someone who is unvaccinated but acts in a safe and inteligent manner regarding the spread of covid ? Or do you an idiot who doesnt give a dam and does what ever when ever? |
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| Author: | Effsie [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Mouse wrote: Do i misunderstand what you mean by " antivaxxer " is it someone who is unvaccinated but acts in a safe and inteligent manner regarding the spread of covid ? No, definitely not. I have never met one of those.Mouse wrote: Or do you an idiot who doesnt give a dam and does what ever when ever? Yes, as that is my (and many others) experience of people oput in the real world and also on socila media and forums such as this.
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| Author: | Alexis [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Effsie wrote: migmogs wrote: so making anyone have a vaccine which could seriously injure them and will not protect them mandatory is so wrong! Presumably you also refuse to cross the road, given that the risk of being injured crossing the road is very significantly greater than any risk from a vaccine. Amazed there are people out there that are still not aware of the possible severe side effects of having a Covid vaccination. |
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| Author: | Mouse [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Ok Effsie , i know where you stand , thankyou . |
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| Author: | Mouse [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Migmogs some 25 years ago i had a hangnail on my thumb it became infected and nasty ! I went to the doctor who prescribed 3 broad spectrum antibiotics, it cleared the infection , but ! It appeared to have almost shut down my immune system and i spent atleast 6 to 9 months catching everything that was going . This was auwful as i didnt live a sterilized life and had a strong immune system so rarely caught anything much . It was at this point i turned away from pharma medicine and concentrated on herbal and only used pharma as a last resort ! Well seems to have worked for me so far so i plan to continue . Have checked this post as i made typos in previous comments. |
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| Author: | Effsie [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Alexis wrote: Effsie wrote: migmogs wrote: so making anyone have a vaccine which could seriously injure them and will not protect them mandatory is so wrong! Presumably you also refuse to cross the road, given that the risk of being injured crossing the road is very significantly greater than any risk from a vaccine. Amazed there are people out there that are still not aware of the possible severe side effects of having a Covid vaccination. As you say - possible severe side effects. You neglect to mention that the chances of having severe side effects are incredibly rare and less likely than many other vaccinations that we don't think twice about. |
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| Author: | Effsie [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Mouse wrote: Ok Effsie , i know where you stand , thankyou . I stand on the side of common sense and understanding. It is as sinple as that. I accept that there are people who don't, although for the life of me I cannot understand why. People can make their own choices, so long as they don't do things that endanger those around them but, very sadly, there are quite a lot of people whose selfishness does endanger others. |
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| Author: | Mouse [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Very true Effsie , there are those who drink and drive and exceed the speed limits by large amounts , drive one handed wandering on the road chatting or posting on mobile , smoking , vaping , eating excess of bad foods , need i go on ? Their are many who live a careless existance ! |
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| Author: | Yakflyer [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
I used to think tanny was 'mad as a hatter' for his views on Covid, mask wearing and Covid vaccines. Now I realise that he is one of the most sane among us. I popped in to my dentist this afternoon; he and his staff knew nothing about the new proposals. They said it applied only to hospitals, not dentists. I commented that no, dentists are included too, in the new rules. As the Receptionist then pointed out: "... but what's the point, as soon as you sit in the dentists's chair you have to take your mask off". Precisely the point I made earlier. It was even dafter at Dr Lenia's at the time of Covid, where at one time you were required to wear a double mask. Which you then took off as soon as you sat in the dentist's chair. How does that work? Does the virus stop being virulent once you are sat in a dentists chair? Unless I absolutely need to, I now refuse to take Covid tests too. I mean, what is the validity of a test taken 48 hours earlier? You could have picked up the virus 23hrs or even 12 hrs earlier. Your test "proves you are safe", but of course you are not, you could be virus potent. I, and my wife, caught Covid a year or two back. Almost indistinguishable from flu. We were one of the early ones to take up the three course Covid jab when it first came out, but would we take it again? Would we trust government and big pharmacy? Not a chance. As tanny observes, it's all about control. And virologists who just love the new status they have acquired, being accountable to, and advising, government ministers. I observed a year or two ago they would not willingly relinquish their new-found 'star' status. And so it has proved. |
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| Author: | Yakflyer [ Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
A few days ago, Dr Karol Sikora, one of the UK's most eminent and respected cancer specialists over many decades, blasted doctors for coming out with scare stories about flu and Covid. He pointed out that flu has been coming out at the same time in the winter for decades, and this winter will be no different. Even he used to words 'scare tactics', which he decried doctors for using. |
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| Author: | Yakflyer [ Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Yesterday's Patroclos "Tales from the Coffeeshop" in the Cyprus Mail. GOT IT IN ONE! Covid craze makes its comeback COVID craze has made its comeback, in a lite version, for now, but the possibility of it eventually returning to its former glory cannot be ruled out. The number of covidiots wearing masks in the supermarket was up on Friday, straight after cabinet approved the measures on Thursday, and it will not be long before the paranoia spreads and they start demanding restrictions are placed on our liberties. For now you are obliged to have a negative PCR or rapid test, carried out less than 48 hours before visiting a hospital, a health centre, a doctor’s surgery, a dentist and an old people’s home. Mask-wearing is mandatory for these visits, despite having a negative test, while people working in these places must have a mask on, at all times. These were proposals made at the meeting of health minister, Dr Popi Kanari and the so-called scientific advisory team which was called back into action, after a long lay-off, to provide a semblance of scientific justification for the unjustified measures. The news has got all the covid zealots excited as they can have something to be frightened about again, illiberal measures to slavishly obey and the opportunity to condescendingly reprimand the unmasked heathens for being irresponsible and selfish. I WOULD not be surprised if businesspeople with large stocks of facemasks or antigen testing kits they could not get rid of, put pressure on the government to re-introduce measures that would boost sales. How else would they dispose of stocks they had already paid for, gathering dust in warehouses? The measures will also boost revenue for pharmacies, which welcomed the measures in an announcement issued by their association on Saturday, urging people to wear masks when entering pharmacies. The association also did its own scaremongering, which is very good for business, saying there was an increased number of people going to pharmacies for antigen tests, many of which were positive. It also identified a new commercial opportunity for its members, proposing that chemists be allowed by the authorities to vaccinate people. They reminded the authorities that chemists had the “experience and the training to offer vaccination services,” thus “contributing to the quicker vaccination coverage of the population.” The Cypriot nose can smell an opportunity for a fast buck faster than you can say coronavirus. WHAT was Dr Popi Kanari’s (who is not a doctor but uses the title because she wants all the world to know she received a PhD, which makes her a superior human being) reasoning for imposing the restrictions apart from the obvious power-trip? On Friday, thoktor Kanari said there were about 3,600 cases. There were 70 elderly people in hospital with covid, not necessarily because of it. In short, 98 per cent of the cases suffered symptoms similar to flu, a cold or were asymptomatic positives and did not need hospital care; most of them, probably, did not even bother going to a doctor. So what was the point of imposing measures and forcing testing, before people could see a doctor (not a thoktor) or go to a hospital? As thoktor Kanari said, there was a “surge” in infections, but we had not reached the “phase of an epidemiological wave.” What she did not say is why when there is a surge in flu cases no measures are imposed. Of course, by forcing people to have tests, the number of recorded cases will increase and, hopefully, we will go into the “phase of an epidemiological wave,” which would justify more fascism and allow the celebrity epidemiologists to resume running our lives. |
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| Author: | Mouse [ Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Yakflier to pickup on a couple of points in your last post, i have long thought there is no money to be made curing people , but to suppress or control the symptoms is the gravy train for life . So i am sure big pharma sees covid as a very profitable marketing strategy, selling masks , tests , vacinations and many other associated products. The pharmas shareholders/investors demand good returns ! |
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| Author: | tanny [ Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Look back no further than the Spanish Flu epidemic. That had zero to do with flu but a bacterial infection. Infection designed by Rockerfella in the New York institute (now the University) Implementation, solution, social care and infection control and spread done by Frederick Gates grandfather of the current Mr Gates and the covid released from Wuhan finded by the US government. If you dont learn and see from the pst then the same mistakes will be accepted as normal. Remember among all governments the US one has the most heinous record of all in experimenting on its own population and closely followed by the UK. These world parasites think nothing of poison and death. |
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| Author: | adfam [ Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
tanny wrote: Look back no further than the Spanish Flu epidemic. That had zero to do with flu but a bacterial infection. Infection designed by Rockerfella in the New York institute (now the University) Implementation, solution, social care and infection control and spread done by Frederick Gates grandfather of the current Mr Gates and the covid released from Wuhan finded by the US government. If you dont learn and see from the pst then the same mistakes will be accepted as normal. Remember among all governments the US one has the most heinous record of all in experimenting on its own population and closely followed by the UK. These world parasites think nothing of poison and death. At the risk of being branded a Sheeple or Covidiot, this is actually not true. Frederick Gates isn't Bill Gates' grandfather or related to him in any way. https://mythdetector.ge/en/what-did-bill-gates-grandfather-do-during-the-spanish-flu-2/ |
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| Author: | Yakflyer [ Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
I've always regarded banks and financial institutions as being some of the biggest crooks not already behind bars. But it's a toss-up between them and big pharma. So many folks in America get shafted on the astronomical price of the drugs and pharmaceuticals they depend on, that they now go to Mexico to obtain prescriptions. Last time we visited friends in Phoenix, they told us that they now go over the border to Mexico to even get dental work undertaken. Hospitals in America will take your last penny and then some. On one visit to Phoenix many moons ago I developed persistent nose bleeds. Nothing serious, but I just wanted to find out what was going on. I visited the out-patient clininic of a large hospital. I received the most basic of cursory examination and note-taking by the receptionist nurse; then I was told to wait to see a doctor. After 5 hours I was done with waiting and told the nurse I was leaving; I had better things to do with my time. A few days later I received a bill for, wait for it - and consider that this took place 20 years ago - $600!! A neighbour just up the road from us - we owned a holiday home there at the time - suggested I refuse to pay and write a letter of complaint to the hospital. $600 to not even see a doctor! I did write a letter, in which I threatened to contact local newspapers and ask whether this was how the medical profession treated visitors to the USA. By return I received a letter from the hospital apologising for my experience... and waiving my pseudo medical bill in its entirety. But I'm going off-thread. Save to say that Patroclos was absolutely right in his view as to why pharmacies in Cyprus are so in favour of re-introducing the ridiculous punitive measures which were foisted on us by the inept and dictatorial administration at the time. At one point I can even remember that Paphians were forbidden from visiting Limassol unless they had good reason. Cars were pulled off the highway at Pissouri and vetted by Police before being allowed to proceed, or turned back. How did we ever allow ourselves to be treated like this? |
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| Author: | Mouse [ Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Yakflier it seemed to had dissappeared from the forum for 6 to 9 months , and now you are back ,and most definately you have thrown away those rose tinted glasses you used to look through. I see covid population controls as just a facet of the system the apex group are putting on us . Having all finances online , obviously no cash as its not tracable, everything on the phone, gps tracking , smart traffic lights, cctv , no wonder with optical internet the upload speed went up from 0.75meg to 60to80 meg , 5g is for uploading to . then they say light electric, heat electric, cook electric , drive electric, internet electric ! At the flick of a switch you will stop ! Become socially dormant . You cant use you net metering system as in the case of power failure it switches off , so no solar ! I know im a nutter ! Conspiriacy theorist ! Trouble is , as changes unfold , these theories are becoming fact . |
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| Author: | tanny [ Fri Jan 12, 2024 12:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Indeed mouse it has proven you are a fact theorist. Similarly afflicted but i cant understand why so many apparently intelligent individuals are so blind. |
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| Author: | migmogs [ Fri Jan 12, 2024 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Flipping heck ...and you wonder why no one wants to post on here any more Listen to yourselves Get off your high horses ...everyone has and is allowed to have different views and opinions And it is not for a select few ‘enlightened’ to call anyone else’s rose tinted glasses points of view wrong! What on earth has happened to this once award winning caring, sharing forum! 
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| Author: | Mouse [ Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Well i guess its my fault ! Maybe i am in the wrong place ? Time to go i guess ? See y |
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| Author: | tanny [ Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Masks and mandatory tests following Covid ‘outbreak’ |
Fully agree migmogs and you are welcome to post your opinion, believe it of no, yours is not the only opinion. |
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