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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:20 am 
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Got a call from my mum yesterday to tell me that ANOTHER body was found at the cycle path that is behind her house. So in the past 6 months, a prostitute was murdered in the building next door to her, a man was stabbed and killed at the top of her road and now this chap has been found killed 2 days ago.

No, my mum doesn't live in hardened London where there seems to be non stop deaths, but a council estate in Edinburgh and she was very nonchalant about the whole thing like it's the most normal thing in the world.

What the heck is the world coming to? It's quite disconcerting to hear about the ever increasing amount of people who are mindlessly killed in the UK. It seems like a whole generation of people who have no sense of right and wrong and put no value on human life are on some kind of killing spree!

A whole generation who believe everyone owes them something - young people who have no intention of ever working because it's so much easier to sign on and then hang around on a street corner with their mates. Girls whose only vocation is to pop a kid out every year to make sure the get they child benefits and a free flat.

A legion of individuals who, if they want something, break in and take it from someone who has worked hard to get it. What a sorry state of affairs!

I'll stop ranting now, just had to get that off my chest! :rant


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:35 am 
Well said Peppermint, I'm in total agreement with you :!:

I think its about time that corporal punishment was brought back & human rights limited to people who really need it, not these yobs who think because they hang around in gangs, that they think they can do what they like... I'm not a violent man :wink: but I pity any yob who stands in my way or tries to take something I've spent my whole working life for, it won't be pretty :lol:

Maybe the government should think about making them join the military compulsory for all school leavers, at least that way they'll learn respect, discipline & a trade of some sorts, then come out after 3 years, able to make their own way in life, instead of sponging of the rest of human race :!:


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Sobering thought: 27 teenagers killed by stabbing over the past year. And I believe those are London figures only. What on earth is the world coming to? How awful to live in the kind of environment where you have to think twice before stepping out of your front door. Thank goodness we don't have that kind of yob culture here. At least I've not seen it. Lloyd


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In a National paper the youths of today were called "feral yobs" by a judge.I think he summed it up very well on the type that commit crime.

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Definitely one of the biggest plusses about Cyprus is being able to go anywhere at any time without feeling concerned for your safety.

Haven't been back to the UK for a while now, but I can imagine the culture shock would be pretty bad - things like being careful not to catch the wrong person's eye in the pub late on a Saturday night, sort of thing I used to be conditioned to, but I'm not sure I would be sufficiently street-wise any more!


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I was walking home on xmas eve with my wife and was punched to the ground for no reason in a supposedly nice area. reported the incident to the police and they said random assaults are a common place nowdays . Funny world


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The complete breakdown in law and order is one of my biggest reasons for wanting to get out of the UK asap. Driving home today and listening to the local news in the car - the first 3 items in the bulletin were about murders or serious assaults. Last weekend in our local town police were called to some nutter brandishing a gun outside a nightclub - as if that wasn't bad enough while police were trying to calm the situation they were pelted with beer bottles by other club goers - what a society we live in !!!

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I was walking home on xmas eve with my wife and was punched to the ground for no reason in a supposedly nice area. reported the incident to the police and they said random assaults are a common place nowdays . Funny world


Thats shocking, did the police actually do anything :?:


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THIS is yob victim Susan Collins with her face “caved in” after a boozed-up hoodie killer savagely attacked her. (go to link http://thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/j ... 705427.ece )

She was put on life support after being kicked to the ground and repeatedly stamped on by Nicholas Hague when she would not give him a cigarette.

The attack took place just three miles from the spot where dad Garry Newlove, 47, was kicked to death by boozy yobs last August.

Hague, 22, who has been a yob since the age of six, attacked Susan, 60, after being freed early from jail for manslaughter.

He had helped kick a man to death in the street.

On the day he attacked Susan he had knocked back several litres of cider followed by two pints in a pub.

After his arrest the yob sneered to police: “She’s just an old cow.”

Hague was yesterday jailed indefinitely for GBH after the assault in his home town of Warrington, Cheshire.

The judge recommended he serve at least 3½ years.

Last night Susan told how the beating left her face “caved in” – separated from the middle of her skull.

Surgeons had to use four metal plates to reconstruct her face and she lost the sight in one eye.

Susan said of her injuries: “I didn’t want to look at myself – I was devastated.”

She is still in a wheelchair.

Former carer Susan, who had been plagued by yobs for months before the attack, said: “He could have killed me. He should not have been allowed out early.”

Hague had received an 18 month jail term in 2005 after admitting helping another man kick Gary Kneen, 31, to death in Warrington in 2004.

But he was freed shortly afterwards due to time spent on remand.

Sentencing him at Warrington Crown Court yesterday, Judge Nicholas Woodward branded him a “dangerous young man”.



I'm finding it quite difficult to understand why this nutter has been given a measly 3.5 years.

I'm sure the 60 year old he almost killed will be most pleased!!! :x

I bet if she'd managed to whack him before he so violently attacked her, she would have got into a lot more trouble than him!!


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They investigated it but unfortunately as yet haven't caught anyone but it's been kept on file!!!


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:11 pm 
I dont understand the justice of today, society is in turmoil & the police are powerless to do anything :roll:

It seems that you get into more trouble for smoking in a pub or workplace than you would for killing someone... sorry to say but I blame the human rights movement, these people even tried to get Sadam Hussien off the hook for what he did, its them that should be jailed for contempt of life in general :!:

Why do these people feel they need to protect other people who have commited crimes, are their brains wired up wrong or something :!:

I know as the Administrator of this site, I shouldn't get emotionally involved in topics but I'm sorry I can't stand by & see this happening without giving my 2 pennies worth :oops:


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More on a similar theme in the news today:

"A GIRL of 14 was fighting for life last night after she was stabbed 30 times by a knife monster in a park.

Terrified Jessica Knight was walking home listening to her iPod when the maniac pounced — stabbing her in the face, neck, stomach and arms.

A cyclist and two people out walking heard screams and found the schoolgirl in a pool of blood.

The youngster — described by police as “a perfectly normal, happy child” — was rushed to hospital where surgeons battled for five hours to save her.

Last night Jessica’s shattered family were at her bedside. She was stable but critically ill.

Det Supt Steve Brunskill, leading the hunt for the knife maniac, said of the attack: “It was frenzied — and, I believe, random.”

Just nine minutes before Monday’s horror Jessica was captured alone on CCTV at a row of shops in affluent Astley Village, near Chorley, Lancs.

Simon Corlson, 52 — one of those who found her 200 yards away at 5.15pm — said: “A policeman told me she’d been stabbed 30 times. You could see blood pumping out of a neck wound.”

Jessica — clad in jeans and a jacket with a fur hood — had gone to call on friends after lessons at Parklands High School in Chorley.:

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I can say it is no better in prison where i work after many years working it is turning for the worse.Mind you dogooder groups don't help.More support for perpetrator than victim.

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oh, My God

I used to live on Astley Village in Chorley!!!!! That would have happened very close to my house!!! And that is a very good area of Chorley. Now you know why I say how much safer I feel here in Cyprus.

In fact that poor girl goes to the same school I went to (although it was called Chorley Grammar School in those days)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:06 pm 
This is why I worry for my boys, especially if I buy them some new gadget for Christmas or Birthdays :!:

I think I'll get them stab vests for their birthdays this year :(


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:rant This is also one of the problems of the ipods, walkmans, whatever you want to call them. When you have that music blaring in your ears what chance do you have of hearing anybody creep up behind you??? Its the same with people on bikes wearing them - no chance at all!! Maybe it's an age thing with me, but I really feel they are very dangerous used like this. :rant

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It's all happening today:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,, ... 42,00.html

The copycat suicides of seven young people in a Welsh town have sparked fears of an internet death cult.

All of the victims - aged between 17 and 27 - were from Bridgend and hanged themselves within the past year.

Some knew each other while several had posted their profiles on networking site Bebo.

Internet memorial sites for the dead have also been created, leading police to fear they wanted to achieve "fame".

The latest to die was 17-year-old Natasha Randall who hanged herself in her bedroom.


What is going wrong with the place these days?? :(


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:36 pm 
This is unbelievable, what is going on :?


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Hell in a handcart!


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