Paphos People

The Paphos and District Information Site

It is currently Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:18 pm



All times are UTC + 2 hours [ DST ]


 



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:23 pm 
Offline
Rock Star

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:32 am
Posts: 1414
The Israelis are at it again.

Palestinians are protesting on their side of the border and Israeli soldiers are firing live rounds at them. Seems three dead so far, plus injuries.

Why does the world let them do this?

"Palestinians in Gaza have marched in their thousands to the Israel border at the start of a six-week-long protest.

Palestinian officials say one farmer and one protester have been killed and dozens of demonstrators wounded by Israeli gunfire.

The Israeli military reported "rioting" at six places and said it was "firing towards main instigators".

Palestinians have pitched five camps near the border for the protest, dubbed the Great March of Return."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43593594


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:47 pm 
Offline
Rock Star

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:32 am
Posts: 1414
BBC News update now says 5 dead and 350 wounded - all Palestinian!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:36 pm 
Offline
Rock Star
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:11 pm
Posts: 1121
Location: Zygi, formerly Israel
Whatever the rights or wrongs of these riots, egged on by the terrorists, it won't change anything.
When the Palestinian Authority purges Gaza of these terrorists, then and only then, will peace
talks be possible and a two-state solution arrived at.
Whatever your views of the situation fact is that Israelis are shot at almost daily by
these terrorists, and I myself have lost a close friend killed by them.
We have a right to defend ourselves against these people, who are financed and armed by Iran.
Remember Iran has stated many times it wants to wipe Israel off the map.
I tell you what, if we go so will they! Iran knows what arms we have in reserve, and they have a bigger "bang" then anything they have.
Amos Issacs.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:14 pm 
Offline
Rock Star

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:32 am
Posts: 1414
Exodus, it's not about the rights and wrongs of what you call riots, it's about Israel's illegal occupation of other people's land.

We have been down this road before and, sadly, you cannot accept that Israel are in the wrong.

According to the BBC, Israeli soldiers have now killed 8 people!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:29 pm 
Offline
Rock Star

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:32 am
Posts: 1414
Now 12 killed and 750 wounded. Why are they allowed to do this?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:58 pm 
Offline
Forum Admin
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:53 pm
Posts: 17223
Location: Pano Paphos
Effsie wrote:
Now 12 killed and 750 wounded. Why are they allowed to do this?

Then they cry " THE WORLD HATES US " and they wonder why ?
its not the jews land ,give it back to the rightfull owners and maybe they will get respect ..

_________________
REACH 1000`s of PAPHOS CUSTOMERS EVERY DAY FOR A FRACTION OF WHAT THE OTHERS CHARGE
----------------------------------------------------------------
Whilst the optimist and the pessimist argued that the whisky glass was either half full
or half empty ? .
I drank it .....
The opportunist..


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:39 am 
Offline
Rock Star
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:11 pm
Posts: 1121
Location: Zygi, formerly Israel
Neil wrote:
Effsie wrote:
Now 12 killed and 750 wounded. Why are they allowed to do this?

Then they cry " THE WORLD HATES US " and they wonder why ?
its not the jews land ,give it back to the rightfull owners and maybe they will get respect ..


Neil, are you seriously suggesting that the State Of Israel should no longer exist?
Post WWII and the Holocaust it was the British who more or less were instrumental in
Re-establishing the Jewish homeland.
Note the word "RE-ESTABLISHING".
We wish to live in peace with all our neighbours, but this is difficult with Iran vowing to destroy
us, and the Hamas terrorists in Gaza attacking us almost daily and forcing the ordinary
Palestinians to riot etc.
If you turn the clock back, where would you suggest we go?
Get real please,
Thank you,
Amos.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:39 am 
Offline
Forum Admin
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:53 pm
Posts: 17223
Location: Pano Paphos
Quote:
Neil, are you seriously suggesting that the State Of Israel should no longer exist?
Post WWII and the Holocaust it was the British who more or less were instrumental in
Re-establishing the Jewish homeland.
Note the word "RE-ESTABLISHING".
We wish to live in peace with all our neighbours, but this is difficult with Iran vowing to destroy
us, and the Hamas terrorists in Gaza attacking us almost daily and forcing the ordinary
Palestinians to riot etc.
If you turn the clock back, where would you suggest we go?
Get real please,
Thank you,
Amos.


You are saying things I never said ,,
they just need to give back what was agreed before they started kicking the arabs off there own land
building settelments on palastine land and slowly, slowly kicking them off there own land .
Now they even want to deport black jews from isreal , they are doing the exact same thing that hitler was doing to them
trying to create there own race in isreal .
the arabs will never let it happen and they will be at war with them forever.

Give them back there land and agree to a 2 state solution and iran will calm down..

just my opinion.

And today the UN security council is holding an emergency meeting after
several shootings of youngsters for throwing stones ... :doh :doh

https://www.rt.com/news/422830-gaza-protests-un-emergency-meeting/

_________________
REACH 1000`s of PAPHOS CUSTOMERS EVERY DAY FOR A FRACTION OF WHAT THE OTHERS CHARGE
----------------------------------------------------------------
Whilst the optimist and the pessimist argued that the whisky glass was either half full
or half empty ? .
I drank it .....
The opportunist..


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:52 am 
Offline
Rock Star
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:11 pm
Posts: 1121
Location: Zygi, formerly Israel
Reply to Neil:
I think you are commenting on the West Bank situation, rather than Gaza.
This thread and my posts are about the riots in Gaza; we have no settlements in Gaza.
Regards Iran you are being a super optimist. They have stated many times they wish
the destruction of the Jewish State, end of. Making clear no compromises.
Amos.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:28 am 
Offline
Rock Star

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:32 am
Posts: 1414
I think you are avoiding the issue.

Israel has unlawfully taken, and continues to take, land from the Palestinians and has oppressed them for decades.

Israel is very heavily weaponised and is more than happy to shoot children and innocent civilians, hiding behind its "special relationship" with the USA to ensure that it doesn't get punished.

As Neil says, they need to give the land back and get rid of the settlements, then the whole region can start the process towards peace.

You need to accept that the Israelis are the bad guys and stop trying to blame everyone else.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:14 pm 
Offline
Rock Star
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:11 pm
Posts: 1121
Location: Zygi, formerly Israel
Effsie wrote:
I think you are avoiding the issue.

Israel has unlawfully taken, and continues to take, land from the Palestinians and has oppressed them for decades.

Israel is very heavily weaponised and is more than happy to shoot children and innocent civilians, hiding behind its "special relationship" with the USA to ensure that it doesn't get punished.

As Neil says, they need to give the land back and get rid of the settlements, then the whole region can start the process towards peace.

You need to accept that the Israelis are the bad guys and stop trying to blame everyone else.


Never heard such rubbish.
These children etc you talk about are the ones doing the dirty work for Hamas, who are in full control of them in Gaza.
Our people are attacked by RPGs etc from Gaza almost daily. Until we built the wall we were attacked by suicide bombers as young as 12.
How would YOU feel if attacked daily like that?
And what land are you saying, exactly, you think we should give away?
Do YOU agree we have a right to exist as Israel, or not? Y/N?
I am not avoiding ANY issues, but we are not prepared to even contemplate negotiating with
terrorists like Hamas. Would you? Y/N?
Amos.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:48 pm 
Offline
Rock Star

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:32 am
Posts: 1414
Well, you expect them to negotiate with trigger happy killers like the Israelis.

The fact that you consider my comments rubbish just show that you refuse to accept the appalling way that the Israelis behave.

Neil made the comment that the Israelis are behaving the same way that Hitler did and, sadly, I believe that he is correct.

As I have and others have said, if Israel stopped building on land that isn't theirs and in contravention of international law, and gave back the land they have taken (you know exactly what land we are talking about, so please don't insult us all by pretending that you don't) perhaps the Palestinians wouldn't feel so aggrieved.

As I have said previously, you refuse to recognise the appalling behaviour and random killing by the Israelis. Until you do, there isn't going to be a lot of sympathy for you!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:36 pm 
Offline
Rock Star
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:11 pm
Posts: 1121
Location: Zygi, formerly Israel
Effsie wrote:
Well, you expect them to negotiate with trigger happy killers like the Israelis.

The fact that you consider my comments rubbish just show that you refuse to accept the appalling way that the Israelis behave.

Neil made the comment that the Israelis are behaving the same way that Hitler did and, sadly, I believe that he is correct.

As I have and others have said, if Israel stopped building on land that isn't theirs and in contravention of international law, and gave back the land they have taken (you know exactly what land we are talking about, so please don't insult us all by pretending that you don't) perhaps the Palestinians wouldn't feel so aggrieved.

As I have said previously, you refuse to recognise the appalling behaviour and random killing by the Israelis. Until you do, there isn't going to be a lot of sympathy for you!


Look the Israeli defence forces have purely being defending themselves and civilians against
unprovoked attacks from Hamas terrorists, and those Palestinians they "control".
"control" means "do as we say or you will not get any food and we might kill your family".
Any killings by Israeli forces has been to defend themselves, the public, and our country.
Hamas declared war on us, you expect us to negotiate with such animals?
You did not answer my questions, clearly because you view events thru rose-tinted spectacles, OR you are just anti-semitic.
To compare what my fellow countrymen are having to do to defend themselves and their families
with Hitler is just very offensive.
Amos.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:44 pm 
Offline
Rock Star

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:32 am
Posts: 1414
Sorry, but you ignoring the random killing of children and civilians by IDF and refusing to accept that Israel has occupied land that is not theirs is also offensive.

Plus you have lost any credibility that you might have had by trying to play the anti-semitism card.

It is pointless trying to discuss this with you as you cannot accept that Israel have done any wrong.

As an aside you claim that "any killings by Israeli forces has been to defend themselves, the public, and our country." Shall we discuss the children shot dead on the beach a few years back, or the Turkish citizens on the boat trying to deliver aid, or maybe the hospitals that were bombed?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:15 pm 
Offline
Rock Star
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:11 pm
Posts: 1121
Location: Zygi, formerly Israel
Effsie wrote:
Sorry, but you ignoring the random killing of children and civilians by IDF and refusing to accept that Israel has occupied land that is not theirs is also offensive.

Plus you have lost any credibility that you might have had by trying to play the anti-semitism card.

It is pointless trying to discuss this with you as you cannot accept that Israel have done any wrong.

As an aside you claim that "any killings by Israeli forces has been to defend themselves, the public, and our country." Shall we discuss the children shot dead on the beach a few years back, or the Turkish citizens on the boat trying to deliver aid, or maybe the hospitals that were bombed?


How come you never criticise the Hamas terrorists Effsie?
I have said all along (check my previous posts) that there have been faults on both sides, that both sides have blood on their hands.
The Palestinian Authority do not control Gaza, Hamas do, this is the underlying problem today.
The West Bank is another story of course, not to be confused with Gaza.
Amos.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:09 pm 
Offline
Top of the pops
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 22, 2013 3:27 am
Posts: 2245
Location: Kamares Village
exodus wrote:
....
The West Bank is another story of course, not to be confused with Gaza.
Amos.

Amos, you are carefully avoid mentioning Golan Heights territory... Why ?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:07 pm 
Offline
Top of the pops
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:08 pm
Posts: 11507
Location: Kallepia, Pafos.
Quote:
where would you suggest we go?
clearly Zygi.

_________________
Straight talking, no Gimmicks.

Live your dreams.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ] 
Paphos people botton - viewtopic_body


All times are UTC + 2 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Kapnos Airport Shuttle



Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group