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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:51 pm 
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Well is he going to be any good or is he going to fall flat on
his face ??

non confrontational relies please ?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:08 pm 
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He believes in democracy and independence for his country - what's there not to like about that!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:17 pm 
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clive of payia wrote:
He believes in democracy and independence for his country - what's there not to like about that!!!!!!

he has been caught out telling porky`s before though ?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm 
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He has built his claim to premiership around the one claim that he will take Britain out of the EU by the end of October with or without a deal. Were he to back out after such a definitive commitment, it would damage him, his party and the concept of democracy. This is one commitment he cannot really go back on - and frankly despite the comments from remainers, there is very little they can do to stop it. He didn't take the job to be the shortest serving PM in history. His ego is much too big for that. Don't be fooled by the buffoonery. He is very clever and very determined.

Parliament closes today for the summer recess. When it returns in September (during which time the government will not be idle) they will have only two days to attempt to bring down the government and the outcome of that, should they succeed is not at all certain. Labour is unlikely to do so unless they can be certain of winning and they are not. That loon just appointed as leader of the, inappropriately named, Liberal Democrats is the only one mad enough to try it and even with SNP support, she hasn't got the numbers to do so. Labour will not back her as she found today.

It seems as though Britain is leaving the EU after all.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:02 pm 
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When the UK has left, the EU will take some form of revenge on those Brits that failed to keep the UK in the EU and expose those UK politicians, civil servants & business groups that the EU has been financially sponsoring, many secretly and/or blackmailing. Then the fun will really start.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:19 pm 
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clive of payia wrote:
When the UK has left, the EU will take some form of revenge on those Brits that failed to keep the UK in the EU and expose those UK politicians, civil servants & business groups that the EU has been financially sponsoring, many secretly and/or blackmailing. Then the fun will really start.


I think the EU will be too busy preventing any other member leaving the sinking ship to be exposing anyone in the UK. Bearing in mind that whatever and whoever they have been sponsoring here is with our own money anyway!
I do not know whether Boris can or will get us out of the EU with the minimum of
cost and pain but wish him well in his endeavour.
We are in for an interesting 3 months I think.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:47 pm 
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As long as his leave proposal is not just another re-hashed Mrs may`s plan ,, which meant we never really left
and they still had a hold over us ..
If I was still eligible to vote in the UK
I would support a no deal brexit.
I believe it would not harm us as much as the scaremongers are saying ...
its all geared up for big business and the banks

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:42 pm 
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Post Brexit. One of the important wins will be to resume our full voting membership of the World Trade Organisation. Once out we will decide our own tariffs for imports into the UK. We can exercise this freedom to take all tariffs off products we do not make or grow for ourselves, providing cheaper food and clothes for UK consumers.

The EU imposes average tariffs of 5%, with an average 11.8% tariff on food. Dairy products are charged at a high 38.1%, fruit and vegetables at 11.5% and sugar and confectionery at 23%. Why shouldn’t we enjoy cheaper oranges and lemons from countries like South Africa, and cheaper wines from Australia and New Zealand?

The UK government has already set out a provisional tariff schedule, and has decided to abolish all tariffs on imported components, providing a welcome boost to UK manufacturing.
The EU will decide whether the UK must pay the external tariffs it charges the USA, China and others on their exports to the EU, or whether to negotiate a free trade agreement to avoid tariffs both ways.
Either way there are plenty of UK trade opportunities. EU tariffs in certain areas are too high. They are an unwelcome tax on the consumer, designed to protect continental farmers and producers at the expense of growers and makers elsewhere in the world. We should bring those down as we leave.

Cannot be bad for a start.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:28 pm 
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clive of payia wrote:
Post Brexit. One of the important wins will be to resume our full voting membership of the World Trade Organisation. Once out we will decide our own tariffs for imports into the UK. We can exercise this freedom to take all tariffs off products we do not make or grow for ourselves, providing cheaper food and clothes for UK consumers.

The EU imposes average tariffs of 5%, with an average 11.8% tariff on food. Dairy products are charged at a high 38.1%, fruit and vegetables at 11.5% and sugar and confectionery at 23%. Why shouldn’t we enjoy cheaper oranges and lemons from countries like South Africa, and cheaper wines from Australia and New Zealand?

The UK government has already set out a provisional tariff schedule, and has decided to abolish all tariffs on imported components, providing a welcome boost to UK manufacturing.
The EU will decide whether the UK must pay the external tariffs it charges the USA, China and others on their exports to the EU, or whether to negotiate a free trade agreement to avoid tariffs both ways.
Either way there are plenty of UK trade opportunities. EU tariffs in certain areas are too high. They are an unwelcome tax on the consumer, designed to protect continental farmers and producers at the expense of growers and makers elsewhere in the world. We should bring those down as we leave.

Cannot be bad for a start.


Clive, thank you for that.
Couple of questions:
1. Is all that in a "no deal" situation?
2. Who do you reckon will be the new UK Ambassador to the USA?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:22 pm 
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Amos. In a Deal or No Deal scenario. Nigel Farage has been in Washington for the last three days and now is in New York. We know this as he broadcasts most evening on LBC Radio. He has met Trump and as a UK citizen introduced himself to the UK Embassy in Washington and the UK Trade Delegation in New York. It doesn't take too much working out. We shall see.

The UK has had non-diplomatic people as UK Ambassador to the USA before - both Labour if I remember.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:42 am 
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clive of payia wrote:
Amos. In a Deal or No Deal scenario. Nigel Farage has been in Washington for the last three days and now is in New York. We know this as he broadcasts most evening on LBC Radio. He has met Trump and as a UK citizen introduced himself to the UK Embassy in Washington and the UK Trade Delegation in New York. It doesn't take too much working out. We shall see.

The UK has had non-diplomatic people as UK Ambassador to the USA before - both Labour if I remember.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:30 am 
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Well is he going to be any good or is he going to fall flat on
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Let's just say Boris has a couple of things that May & Hammond demonstrably lack!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:44 pm 
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He may be brilliant, he may be a political genius, he may be lots of things however the buffoonery he has shown in the past and the profile built for him by the media and his advising team has in my opinion caused too much damage for him to recover.

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