Paphos People

My husband just came back from buying water in our Peyia village

He went into the kiosk near to Tower Gym thinking with holiday makers here
It would be safer than either of the two Philipos
and his normal kiosk had run out of water

Wrong

15 plus people in the kiosk a mixture of men and women expats and Cypriots
Not one had a mask on ...no body put hand sanatizer on as they entered ...no distancing
A further 3 firemen walked in...no masks...no hand sanatizer

The staff had masks on....no one else had a mask on besides my husband

What is wrong with these people!

Is this happening everywhere?

We are in the middle of a pandemic...wearing masks , distancing and cleaning your hands stops the spread of the virus

I just hope that the Police are aware. €300.00 per person.

I am trying not to go out unless I have to, but almost everyone I see is wearing as mask as required.

I saw one English guy in a kiosk paying who did not have a mask, so I told him that he could not be inside without one and he claimed that he had no idea that they were required!

We get our water delivered with our online shopping .

I have not been in a supermarket since March .

REPORT any violations by any establishment to tel 1460 or your local police station

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Dave
Moira And Dave

“I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.”

Mine is a slightly different story. Last week I needed to go to an opticians along Tomb of the Kings Road but as they were busy inside I waited on one of the plastic chairs left outside in the shade with my mask hanging off one ear. There was one other chair a meter or so away but in bright sunshine. About a minute went by and another man approached (also with a mask hanging off one ear) and went to sit on the second chair in the blazing sun. I told him he couldn't sit there and to move the chair next to me in the shade where there was just about enough space next to me. We started talking and from his accent I could tell he was American, we discussed how long we had lived here, me almost 20 years and him a little less, then after a brief spell he said "this really is bull sh it isn't it?". I knew exactly what he meant and wholeheartedly agreed with him but said I would put it in stronger language, so then for a few minutes we exchanged our similar opinions but had to end there as the assistant appeared to deal with me so for about 5 minutes I had to be compliant and fix my mask round my other year thinking to myself how bloody pointless this all is!

If, American man, you happen to read this please get in touch by posting, I'd like to continue our chat, we seem to be just two of a sensible minority left in Cyprus.

The way that the majority of us feel is not doodoo or pointless at all

And sad on both of you for not distancing and not wearing your masks when so close!

Masks , distancing , cleaning your hands work

IF every single person on earth wore a mask and kept their distance and cleaned their hands

World wide at the same time for just a few weeks

The pandemic would stop!

And lives like the over 100,000 plus lives lost in Brazil would never have happened

I cannot believe that we still have people like you around us! You are a danger to us all!

We are in a Novel SARS 2 Covid 19 pandemic that we as human beings have no antibodies to
That should never have been allowed to have got out of China

Millions of people could die!

And many millions of people left infirm for the rest of their lives ...with terrible illnesses , blood clots on their lungs , permanent lung damage, heart damages, brain damage, diabetes, kidney and liver damages

I actually don.t know who you are
But what I do know is that I don,t want to be any where near to you or people like you
Who do not understand the SARS 2 Covid 19 virus and do not understand the very simple things we all need to do for the next 6-9 months ...to stay safe and in my husbands case to stay alive!

mimogs - Old Twister is the person who supports herd immunity - one of his recent comments below:

''Rubbish! A mask that doesn't do it's job properly just gives an unjustified sense of security. Anyway, only vulnerable and vulnerable older people should be wearing masks, all others should not. The world needs to get some more people infected to produce herd immunity''.

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Alexis

Sadly he has complete and utter non understanding of the SARS 2 covid 19 pandemic and it,s implications on both lives lost and the people who will have to live for many years with terrible comorbidities

We have a world population of 7.5 billion people

If 0.27% of people die from SARS 2 covid 19 ...that is equal to over 202 million people who could die

5% of people who get this awful SARS 2 covid 19 illness who end up on ventilation and who survive ventilation have further terrible long lasting illnesses from the Cytokine storms that happen to the body after serious SARS 2 covid 19 = a staggering 375 million people could be maimed for life

We have as humans no immunity to the Novel SARS 2 covid 19 virus

And all we have to do is to wear a mask, keep your distance and clean your hands!

To stop this!

Sobering figures!

Stay safe all

I was reading a report only today saying that if everyone wears an effective mask and takes social distancing and hand washing seriously, then it works and the virus will begin to disappear.

I also saw a report today of a group of people barging into a supermarket in the UK and shouting at customers and staff for wearing masks.

People like this who are against wearing masks are, in my opinion, barking mad or determined to infect either themselves, or the innocent people around them trying to stay safe.

When will these people stop treating this as some kind of joke? Many people, particular the older ones as many of us are, are at significant risk here and anti mask idiots and their actions almost defy belief.

Heavy fines and imprisonment for repeat offenders really are called for here to protect those of us who are trying to stay safe.

It always seems that the ones who are pro tory, brexit, anti vaxers and are against wearing masks are the same selfish types commonly known as gammon;

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Dave

Yeah like the Americans are handling the problem well and follow the rules

From the Cyprus Mail:-
Six of the cases were contacts of previously confirmed cases – four of which belonged to a cluster started by a woman who had returned from the US.

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Dave
Moira And Dave

“I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.”

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Dave
Moira And Dave

“I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.”

Does a person has to have all those requisites in order to belong to this exclusive group?
If so, a very elite group consisting of very few members.

Pretty much.
Very few members, how many do you need to infect a lot of people? One selfish woman who has flew in from the US has so far infected 30 others. She is apparently one of an elite type of group. Do you fit the bill?

https://www.financialmirror.com/2020/08 ... eaches-30/

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Dave

What a load of twaddle. I am a Tory supporter, I am Pro Brexit. I wear my mask all the time whilst out and about.

I said that 'it always seems' to be those types, are you anti vaccination by any chance?

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Dave

I agree with you that the virus should never have got out of China (either accidentally or deliberately), but we now know that it is not a Novel virus and you are clearly wrong in your statement about antibodies. If you watch the following video you will learn something you are obviously not aware of including the fact that you probably have protective Coronavirus antibodies donated to you by your dog (if you have one). As in the previous video I posted this video confirms it's all about T cells. People should really get things into perspective, the chance of being within a mile from somebody carrying Covid is infinitesimal let alone being within 2 meters of them! You are more at risk of having a road accident, does that stop you going out in your car.

I have done my best to maintain a strong immune system including never having the 'flu jab which has been confirmed to alter the immune system and more recently has been shown to make an attack of Covid19 more serious than it would have been. But that is another story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3_wSU1 ... C_cPzHHozc

From the National Institute for Public Health and the Environment
Ministry of Health, Welfare and Sport
The novel coronavirus is the virus that can cause the disease known as COVID-19. The virus is spread through human-to-human transmission. Coughing and sneezing spreads small droplets. Someone else can breathe them in and become infected. The droplets can also be transmitted through hand contact, for example if someone touches their nose or face and then shakes hands.

https://www.rivm.nl/en/novel-coronavirus-covid-19/virus-sars-cov-2

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Dave
Moira And Dave

“I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.”

Yes, strictly that is true, and it is still being called a Novel virus, but it was first described that way because nobody had any clue about it's origin. When they discovered it was about 80% the same as SARS-CoV and 50% the same as MERS-CoV that's when they named it SARS-CoV-2.

Sorry posted twice!

I have been followIng Dr John Campbell for months ...he absolutely calls this covid 19 a novel virus
And he also absolutely thinks and states that masks are imperative to stop the spread of the covid 19 virus

He would advise you to wash your hands...wear a mask when in closed places and to keep your distance ...in fact he advocates being outdoors distancing to bring down the viral load

He also believes strongly to help to stop the cytokine storms to take vitamin D

He also absolutely thinks like the rest of the scientific world that 80% of people will get the covid 19 virus and be great very few symptoms...15% will covid 19 and feel pretty sick and ill ...and 5% will end up seriously ill on ventilators and some of these will absolutely die ...those figures have not changed...and neither has the figures for what could happen globally ...we are still talking potentially about millions of people dying and millions of people being left with terrible illnesses after having had severe covid 19

Those 80% 15% 5% ratios have not changed

Yes we are learning more and more about the covid 19 virus as time goes along ...and if dogs and cows are found to have helped some people to only have light corona virus illness then that is good...may the world return back to normal ASAP!

And yes scientists have been working hard to understand and stop the pandemic

But tell my daughters best friend ...whose fit dad died from covid 19 aged 56...and tell our best friend whose very fit 27 year old son who has been left with terrible illnesses for the rest of his life because of the cykotene storms damage ...ask Kate Garraway the news reader who had dogs by the way ...whose husband is still in hospital suffering from holes in his heart, blood clots on his lungs and is now diabetic 5 months in hospital no release date to go home in sight and will never recover !

Yes a lot get this disease mildly ...but for those millions who get a bad dose ...they will either die or be left with terrible life long illnesses!

But all agree ...that wearing a face mask when in close contact ...good hand hygiene and distancing is the biggest simple weapon that we all have against this virus for now

And that from where I am standing is not a big ask!

I'm afraid we will just have to agree to disagree. The figures you give, 80%, 15% & 5% I have no argument with and the sooner we get there the better for everybody especially the infirm and vulnerable. For up to 80% to be infected, hopefully mildly, that is called herd immunity - something I've been suggesting all along. There is surely no other way of killing of the virus's transmission especially as any 'safe' and lasting vaccine seems to be so far away. As I've posted before all vulnerable people need to protect themselves while younger people go back to work, school or any other way to carry on with their lives until that 80% (or maybe less) has been achieved and the economy can really begin to recover.

80% of 7.5 billion people on earth ...is 6 billion people would have to have been affected

Let’s get real here...we have globally officially 20 million people have been affected

If we say let’s say 60 million have been affected and not counted

We are miles away on figures alone for herd immunity globally...each country is no where near to herd immunity

In Cyprus official figures out of 1.2 million of us is just over 1,200 people have officially had the virus...let’s drum that up for those that have had the virus and don,t know to 10,000 people or 20,000 people...again we are miles away and only at the beginning of the pandemic yet here in Cyprus

IF you follow Dr John Campbell he will reiterate time and time again...that we are at the beginning

We are not going to get herd immunity around our earth ...without losing millions of lives first and without seeing millions of lives left with terrible illnesses

Herd immunity is NOT going to happen ...how many years do you want to wait for?

Which is why they are all globally searching out vaccines

Only other eventuality that could happen is that it just disappears like SARS 1 did!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsMbpocRxtQ

It's been interesting to read your comments but I would prefer to build my judgement from information from someone like Professor Karol Sikora.

Old Twister and migmogs -

Just to say it is good to have a debate on a very important topic that stays objective so everyone can make up their own minds.

Information is moving at speed as more and more is learned

It,s hard to keep up ...so much us happening so quickly

But my main concern right now

Is people not wearing masks in mandatory enclosed places
Like the kiosk in Peyia

So back to topic.

Just to reassure you all, I always stick to the law, I did totally during the lockdown and I now wear a mask in shops etc. but that doesn't mean I have to agree with it!

My son flew in today Two rows behind him was a Russian family. The father was wearing his mask over his eyes so that he could get some sleep. When the cabin crew intervened and asked him to put it on, his response was to shout that he had had his coronavirus test and, as such, he didn't need to wear one. After much arguing he finally put it on.

Idiots like him are walking our street people. This is what we need to be wary of.

I wish the crew had reported him and had him taken away on landing.

https://medium.com/@vernunftundrichtigk ... e6db5ba809

From me just a final article which I found informative and very good reading.

Sorry I gave up when he said that the SARS 2 covid 19 virus is a simple flu virus
And that it had gone away during the summer as it was a winter flu virus!

Well ask France, Spain, Netherlands, Greece, Germany, Texas, California, etc etc etc

About their summer rise in infections !

Perhaps you will be kind enough to highlight in the piece where it is that what you say is quoted. I can find nothing that you say is there!

Part 1. New novel virus...last paragraph

QUOTE: So: Sars-Cov-2 isn’t all that new, but merely a seasonal cold virus that mutated and disappears in summer, as all cold viruses do — which is what we’re observing globally right now. Flu viruses mutate significantly more, by the way, and nobody would ever claim that a new flu virus strain was completely novel. Many veterinary doctors were therefore annoyed by this claim of novelty, as they have been vaccinating cats, dogs, pigs, and cows for years against coronaviruses. CLOSE QUOTE

I give up, it doesn't say what you claim it says at all!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... aster.html

I so agree with this article and have myself been saying the same for months!