Paphos People

Migmogs, I do understand what the lockdowns are about.
They are about controlling us to accept Draconian measures by ramping up the fear factor caused by false positive PCR tests....now we have complied they have a solution to save us by vaccinating the world.... but this is just the beginning of their Agenda

We will certainly never agree as you believe the lockdowns are necessary and those at the top care whilst I think the opposite

The Corona Scandel investigative team are gathering evident and intend to bring those responsible for these Crimes against humanity to justice so there must be plenty of evidence to back up their claims.....and there is in abundance

Generally I would agree with you, but what worries me is that conspiracy theorists like some posting on this thread could potentially convince others to follow their misguided beliefs and also refuse to be vaccinated putting the rest of us at risk.

The vaccination minimises the symptoms for anyone who catches it and largely negates the risk of dying from it. Therefore, if everyone is vaccinated, we will all be safer. I'm not sure who some people cannot see that.

Telling people to avoid mainstream media, i.e. those who generally report the truth, quote WHO etc, is just leaving you open to crazy theories. Anyone can create a graph claiming whatever results they want and, as we can see on this thread, people will delude themselves into believing that they are true.

This is almost like dealing with QAnon believers!

I said earlier that I would not comment again, but some of the comments are frankly dangerous.

Has anyone else seen the stories today about side effects of the vaccine? It is early days yet, but seemingly there are signs that it can also have a positive effect on cancer sufferers and those with Alzheimer's. That may come to nothing, but let's hope.

I genuinely hope that everyone stays safe and that the non believers will realise the benefits both for themselves and for the wider population around them.

Do you honestly believe that?

Thank you for answering my question lady libra

So you believe that every government in the world....even governments and countries that don,t like each other...have all joined forces as one ...to control us human beings by lock downs....and by destroying their own countries financial security in the process? So that they can control us? This is your belief? And you believe that every government around the world has joined in?

So Russia, Turkey, Israel, Iran, China, India, Africa, America, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Europe, South America, Uk, Cyprus, Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Germany, France, etc etc etc have all joined as one super force together to terrify all of their individual nations to rule us as individuals by lock downs? And that they have bankrupted themselves whilst they gained this individual control! So that they can vaccinate us all!

Wow!

Governments do not join forces to destroy their own countries and people’s en mass as one group. Just to control and vaccinate them!

Over 2.5 millions people have died from this deadly virus so far...this number is set to sadly grow

Question.... So when our hospitals are at capacity as the uk ones where at Christmas time and when here in Cyprus our hospital had reached capacity, which they did a few weeks ago.

You think that we should have carried on...and got to the same scenes that we saw in Italy and Spain last year? Where they had the terrible choices of choosing young lives over older lives to save...that we should have let this virus run and just let people die because of lack of care?

Wards over run with seriously very sick and dying people, drs and nurses exhausted from the dreadful things that they have seen in covid 19 wards ..trust me...these scenes have not been made up! They sadly are a reality

Again Wow!

How sad to believe such ill thought out conspiracies!

Which falls at the first fence...
getting all of these nations firstly to agree to destroy financially all of their own countries

Stay safe and well

Good post. I'm not sure which way round it is, but I am increasingly starting to think that one of the conspiracy theorists on this thread is Donald Trump and the other one is Rudi Giuliani.

I can't think of any other explanation for what they are posting.

Mind you, one of them could be David Icke!

I DID NOT GET BANNED. I left of my own free will, and announced I was doing so, purely because of the constant sarcasm from the forum owner who gives far too much credence to his own inflated opinions.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425/

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425/rr-31

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425/rr-11


For anybody that likes to investigate real facts, science etc. might like to read this in the British Medical Journal (so it must be a conspiracy theory). It's a bit lengthy for some people though!

.......and by destroying their own countries financial security in the process? So that they can control us?

Countries, especially Europe and America, were already bankrupt. The money used to support its people is just money printing, so debt on top of debt. It's people will start to repay this and end up bankrupt.....when this occurs all debts will be wiped with the Great Reset...of course the billionaires will keep theirs

I'm not making any further comments on this matter because you cannot accept anything untoward is happening. However I can very much appreciate that people would find this difficult to believe. And I do have empathy for anyone who is frightened, especially those who are vulnerable with illnesses.
It is hard for everyone. No one has been unaffected by this. It has been a terrible year. I have a son in this UK who is struggling and I needed to get back to help him but have not been able to

Effsie, so you believe the WHO are a trusted organisation.....wow they are so corrupt

I am giving up with you conspiracy theorists

Stay safe all

Because it isn't!

That is just a typical ignorant attitude - I thought better of you than that.
Try reading the 3 British Medical Journal links I posted and at least give me your opinions of those.

If you leave a forum of your own free will you would simply stop posting, all your posts on CL have been wiped, Dominic is the most easy going forum owner that I have known.
You are a person who airs their views on an open forum but cant accept criticism that will come with it. I posted a remark on this thread and in defiance you have to take a cheap shot at me by posting an inaccurate quote of something that I put on another forum.

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Please do not call me ignorant

Actually I did read the first BMJ that you posted and I spent over a good hour reading all of the replies also which where very informative to get a more balanced view and then I went onto other things that I looked up.
I find the replies very informative as they question the initial writings

I will continue to read the BMJ which I found very interesting so thank you for posting the links

But I will not take part with and listen to world domination propaganda conspiracy theories! And anti vaxxers conspiracies!

Some of what has been written has been absolutely farcical!

Good grief...the uk couldn,t agree between themselves on any Brexit roll out ...never mind the arguments that would have ensued about world domination roll out! Let’s terrify our individual people of the uk into vaccination! And then add on the rest of the world governments also to agree! And then do the same to their communities and peoples!

I took part in the early 1950,s with the very new, just being rolled out Polio Vaccination program...which was 2 years in the making
I also took part in the very new TB vaccination roll out
I was one of the first to get the new pneumonia for life jabs and flu jabs
In none of these vaccination roll outs where we led to world domination!
But what we where led to...was the lessening of those diseases

Stay safe and well

It's a bit like the moon landing conspiracy theorists. The number of people that would have to be involved and keep the whole thing a secret means that it just isn't viable.

For all the countries of the world, many of whom don't get on, to conspire in the way that is being suggested would mean that hundreds of thousands of people (or more) would have to be involved and the simply couldn't all keep their mouths shut.

It is absolutely farcical and intellectually insulting!

Communism is now in league with Capitalism...Israel has joined forces with Arabs...West has met with the East! Cyprus is in cahoots with Turkey! The EU is in cahoots now with brexit uk! Scotland is working now as a team with England! And all at the exact same time! And all with the exact same agenda...to control their people into vaccination! And to take their peoples small amounts of money off them!

Oh and why we are at it...let’s kill off 2.5 million of them, cripple with long term covid diseases hundreds of thousands of them, kill and maim hundreds of thousands more with dodgy vaccinations, lockdown the workers who make us money, make millions of those workers now live off the state, stop all air traffic movement and bankrupt each other’s countries whilst we do this!

Because the little working man on the streets globally who probably has little or no savings, has the money that we all want as governments, for the few elite that as governments globally we are all now in cahoots with!

I thought that taxes did that much easier!

What a load of conspiracy rubbish!
For goodness sake!

Last post for me!

Wrong - I specifically asked for my membership to be cancelled, therefore rightly all my posts were cancelled. And I do remember the nasty history of your type of posting, not on Cyprus Living as you said, but on Paphos Life, so get your facts straight!

Ok people; please let’s not descend to name calling and personal insults.
Everyone has a right to an opinion whether or not you feel it’s wrong

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Moira And Dave

“I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.”

With strong turnout for vaccines, Paphos residents back Covid passports

With around 90 per cent of eligible people taking up coronavirus vaccinations in Paphos, there is strong support in the area for some kind of Covid passport.

“This is the right way to go and I am happy to have a vaccine passport, I would shout it from the roof tops as I want people to know that I’ve had it. I don’t think that airlines should let people get on a plane unless they’ve got one, I think it’s a good idea,” said resident Ted Parry, 76.

The introduction of digital vaccination certificates in the EU were raised on Thursday as countries moved closer to an agreement at a virtual EU summit.

Such a certificate would enable people to travel in Europe despite the coronavirus pandemic and could be available before the summer, reviving international travel and in time for this summer’s holiday season, according to German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

“Everyone agreed that we need a digital vaccination certificate,” she told a press conference on Thursday.

Greece supports an EU-wide vaccine certificate to open up summer tourism, and along with Cyprus has reached an agreement with Israel, which has a digital Green Pass enabling travel for those with proof of a vaccination.

Some countries are backing a common EU approach instead of individual schemes although Merkel said the EU would need around three months to create such documents.

Meanwhile a poll carried out this week by Rock FM in Paphos found that more than 70 per cent of listeners support a digital vaccine ‘passport.’

“We would also both be happy to carry vaccination passports and don’t see a problem with it at all,” Mike Bingham, 75, said after he and his wife Christine,72, were vaccinated on Thursday.

Mark Morris, 67, too showed support for such a plan, saying he would have the vaccine when offered and if a vaccine passport is required to be able to fly, he wouldn’t object.

However, if it was required to enter restaurants, concerts and for other reasons, he wouldn’t, “rush out to get one.”

“This may be a step too far, they may as well tattoo a bar code on our foreheads and be done with it. I can see the logic for travel but not for jobs and to enter restaurants,” he added.

Read more / Full story here:- https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/03/01/with-strong-turnout-for-vaccines-paphos-residents-back-covid-passports/

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Moira And Dave

“I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.”

If I was misguided enough to have a vaccine of course I would then accept one of the so called vaccine passports but it doesn't make them the correct thing to do. In your CM link I prefer to read the more sensible public comments at the end from which I have taken this short clip which I had not previously seen.

https://twitter.com/GameTWynV/status/13 ... 5619650561

Well if you were to believe Old Twister and Ladylibra here in the UK (we are doomed!!) Over 20 million people have now had their first vaccine which I suspect after today will be 21 million, nearly a million have now had 2nd doses and that is escalating throughout this month so if all these stupid theories are correct there will be no UK - nor any other country left on the planet or we will all develop two heads and be controlled by Apes!

Still waiting for the 2 members to answer the questions I posed, incase they missed it here it is again

We have to respect Old Twister & Ladylibra's opinions, like most on here we will always have different views and that is okay but what I would like to ask a question I would be grateful for their sensible responses.

You disagree with the vaccine (your choice), so please let us know what you views are.

1. How would you resolve this world crisis where millions have died.
2. Would you not accept that something is better than nothing.

Finally to help you understand why some vaccines are rushed, rightly or wrongly which saves lives.

What would you say to those that invented Penicillin, in 1942 that was rushed so that it could treat WW2 soldiers, I am allergic to that drug but would not belittle it.

You are quite welcome to go back over the last 12 months to read all my posts in detail where my position on this subject is perfectly clear. I'm certainly not going over it all again for anybody who may not have read them i the first place when they were first posted!

Phew.. Thank goodness for that.